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How large can I go without a crew?

Discussion in ' Popular Yacht Topics ' started by BenSeattle , Jul 20, 2006 .

BenSeattle New Member

Greetings from semi-sunny Seattle, As my golf career winds down I'm becoming increasingly enamored of the boating life, particularly because I'm exposed daily to the wonders of Seattle's expansive waterways. I've always been envious of friends who've invited my family to tour Lake Washington or cruise up the Puget Sound to the San Juan Islands... particularly during this time of year: Seattle's four-month summer! While country club and resort golf has been my passion for years, I've recently come to the conclusion that a whole new chapter of exploration, recreation and education could be opened with the purchase of an appropriate power boat. Naturally, the costs of yachting are significantly more than those associated with even the most enthusiastic golf endeavors, but at this stage of my life I continue to ask myself, "Why not buy a boat?" and every answer continues to tell me I should. Like many first-timers, I'm both excited and cautious... eager to jump in but also determined not to make a mistake. I look forward to using this Forum to interreact with others whose knowledge is vastly deeper than my own. First question: how large can I go without a crew? Certainly, I would in the early stages of ownership antaicipate being accompanied by a Captain who can accellerate my education, but at some point I would expect my use of the boat will find such a presence unneccesary, save for special events where would be devoting most of my attention to guests. I envision most of my time on the water to be one-day excursions around the lakes as well as three-to-four day outings through the San Juan Islands and into the waters off Canada. Alaska? Perhaps one day. Our family includes myself, my wife and teenage boys, 15 and 17. Therefore, I'm curious as to whether this "crew" will one day be sufficient to manage what I would consider to be a fairly large vessel. At this point, I'm most attracted to yachts in the 75 to 95 foot range. Do I have enough bodies or should I already count on bringing aboard a handful of hard-working seamen? Please feel free to include any advice and counsel regarding this or other topics suitable for a newcomer. Happy cruising.

OutMyWindow Senior Member

Having my share of mishaps very long time ago when I first got into boating, my thoughts are that a 90 foot yacht for a first timer may be courting disaster. I suggest you take your family on a charter yacht of about the same size up to Alaska, and do a lot of watching, talk to the captain and get a feel for things first. Good luck I don't want to scare you but the Pacific Northwest is and can be very treacherous for the unexperienced. http://www.pacificshipwrecks.ca/english/wrecks.html

goplay Senior Member

Good question... I got into boating last year and bought a 47'. I used it a lot, running it myself and put 100 hours on it in less than 12 months. After having a larger boat, and knowing what I wanted in a larger boat I decided to commit some major dollars to buy something bigger. Your question was my first question... how big can I go with just my fiancee and myself running it? I had a range of answers, including professional captains who run single handed 80'+. A lot has to do with experience and a lot has to do with the type of boat. I personally came to the conclusion that 60-65' is probably optimum for two average boaters to handle, have reasonable chances of finding slips (transient and permanent), size for a greater range in seas, fuel range, accommodations etc. I would stretch this to the 70' range but slips become much harder to come by (at least in CA). The key issue to consider is insurance. Most insurance will only allow you to jump in 10' increments if you are running it yourself. With the 62' I am buying I will have to have a captain with me. I don't see that as a big issue most of the time since it is a cheap way of avoiding trouble and learning at the same time. I do plan on, however, operating it myself but with the captain's presence. Hopefully I will be able to drop the requirement for a captain. If slips and insurance (jumping up 25') weren't an issue I would go for a 72-74' and avoid a possible future upgrade!

outmywindow said: Having my share of mishaps very long time ago when I first got into boating, my thoughts are that a 90 foot yacht for a first timer may be courting disaster. I suggest you take your family on a charter yacht of about the same size up to Alaska, and do a lot of watching, talk to the captain and get a feel for things first. Good luck I don't want to scare you but the Pacific Northwest is and can be very treacherous for the unexperienced. http://www.pacificshipwrecks.ca/english/wrecks.html Click to expand...

nas130 Member

One of my bosses tried to run a 70 something footer by himself and wound up hiring a captain. Bigger boats need a lot of attention. Most work can be subcontracted out, but you still need to manage the boat. If you want to show up and go, hire a captain. If you do not mind putting in the time, you can run a large boat by yourself. You can hire dayworkers for wash downs and some of the dirty jobs. Once you get the experience if you buy a bigger boat you can drive the boat and hire a mate/engineer and stew to keep things ship shape. nas

Not just me! Please know that I appreciate the replies, but I'd better make it clear that I certainly would not run a boat totally by myself. This ain't like, "Honey, I'm going for a spin in the Porsche.... be back in an hour." No, I envisious -- at some point down the road -- putting the wife and two strapper teenagers to work, serving as crew, in addition to acting as guests. Trust me.... should I buy a boat for this family, it won't be so a pair of teenagers can sit below and hammer at the X-Box all weekend! Still, from all indications, on anything above 60-70 feet, an experienced captain sounds like a VERY good idea. Happy cruising.

sailronin Senior Member

Ben, The USCG will require a licensed captain on any vessel 200 gross tons or greater (46 CFR 15.805). So that will be the absolute maximum, however that doesn't make it a good idea to plan on running your own 110 footer. It depends how much time you want to put into the yacht. A boat over 65 to 75 feet will be pretty much a full time job for one person to clean and maintain. If you are retired and want to spend 4 to 6 hours five days a week taking care of your boat, it's a great hobby! Plan on starting with a smaller boat and decide if this is something you want to devote a lot of time to master or if you want to enjoy your time on the water without all the worry, hire a professional. Dave

Billy1119 Senior Member

I agree with most of the above. The time required to clean and keep up the boat is only one aspect you need to think about, and the experience and knowledge needed by a captain isn't just the piloting of the boat, but also the knowledge of the mechanical, electrical, hydraulic, and other systems on the boat that need maintenance and repairs. If you are very mechanically inclined, and your sons are as well, then over time spent with a captain training you what to do, you would be able to handle a boat that size. There is a lot to know, especially on newer boats, and a lot to break. I can spend at least 25 hours a week just keeping up with maintenance and repairs (no cleaning at all) on our 84. There's always something that needs doing. If you want to run a boat of that size (around 80 ft) without crew after a while, just know it's not all going to be fun, it will be a lot of work too. Some if it's fun work. When it's your own boat, though, the work is more fulfilling. 95 ft? Your teenagers better be hard, willing, knowledgeable workers! Hopefully this will give you a little more knowledge of what will be required.

KCook Senior Member

I like the approach outlined by "goplay". Seems to me that a sub-50 foot flybridge would make an excellent "trainer" yacht. baby steps Kelly

Wise counsel Greetings from somewhat somber Seattle: Sage advice, gentlemen, and much appreciated. Billy the Sunseeker made lots of sense especially. Obviously, this may be a case of my eyes being bigger than my capabilities. Naturally, I look forward to appreciating all the "fine points" of yacht ownership, but because I even moreso look upon this venture for its pleasures more than it's pains, it's apparent now that if I'm determined to "run my own boat" a vessel MUCH smaller than 75' is going to be the necessary order. Ah yes... a "trainer" boat. Now, of course, I'll have to decide: go with smaller and "be my own captain" or find myself so attracted to that 75 to 95' length that professional captain and mates should also be factored in. Frankly, while there is much appeal to becoming well-versed regarding all that goes into a skilled yachtsman, it is also true that I'm certainly not looking to take on a full-time job (I already have one of those!) Equally important, I suspect that a smaller boat simply will not have the room nor the amenities that I would like to see. All this, of course, is pure speculation at this point, of course, but I'm delighted to receive valid impartial advice. (Certainly I will shortly be speaking with brokers but those boys tend to want to sell me something....) Happy cruising.

So find a broker who also charters Kelly

TomTom Member

how big There was an info in the mag. Boote exclusiv this year, that Ralf Schumache (the little one of both f1-drivers) changed his MY down to a elegance 64, because he can run it by himself. First it was an 115 Dynasty if i rember right. ( www.elegance.de ) Then in the boot-fair Hamburg Boot last year Drettmann showed a 28m-elegance and they told me, that this the owner is running with 1 multiple skilled captain for quarter-year trips in Europe. The vessel looked well. TS TSOE.com

yachtbrokerguy Guest

In the 60 -70 foot range the cost of a GOOD captain will be substantially lowered by the reduction of yard bills, cleaning bills, and more. A new boat will need someone to oversee warranty work, an older boat takes lots of maintainance. Having fun is hard work, but all work and no play doesn't make for enjoyable yachting. Having had a captain's license for 32 years, I do not hesitate to jump a boat in that size range and run it alone, after the first 5000 landings they are easy, but for a beginner, a knowledgeble captain who wants to teach the new owner will take much of the stress away. After owning a boat in that size for awhile you can later decide if crew makes it more enjoyable or if you can do it yourself. Bigger than 75' almost always has crew except for long term owners who have spent years moving up. Finding the right captain is often as hard as finding the right yacht, do not try to save some money there, if you pay peanuts you will get monkeys.

Garry Hartshorn Senior Member

Talking about monkeys I saw a guy cleaning teak decks today on the boat next to me with straight teak cleaner and a wire brush, may have been cheep labour but what is the damage done worth ???

A WIRE brush? I think most monkeys would know not to do that.

Well it would have been worth employing a professional crew rather than a monkey even though most monkeys would know better......

Garry Hartshorn said: Well it would have been worth employing a professional crew rather than a monkey even though most monkeys would know better...... Click to expand...

MYCaptainChris Senior Member

My suggestion I would definately say stick to the 40-55 foot range, I have a friend back in the UK who runs a 46 foot Princess very well with his wife and two teenage sons. His problem at the moment is that his sons are at that age where they don't want to spend it with the parents, and however capable his wife maybe it is proving alot of work for just two. Saying that I run a 111ft steel yacht with just two. This is only because my budget has been reduced to the extent where the yacht can no longer go to sea. With just the two of us working approx 8am-6pm (often more) monday to friday and at least 6 hours over the weekend (once again often more) I would have to say we are still not keeping up with the maintenance. We need at least another two crew and a new owner!!!! The larger the yacht and the older the yacht the more maintenance you need to do. If you really want to enjoy your yacht either get full time crew or stay on the smaller side.

Chris, could you expand a little on what chores are eating up the most manhours on your yacht? curious Kelly

Man hours Mostly cleaning, but the engine room needs constant attention on a yacht of this age. I am currently re-wiring one of the Gensets as all the old wiring has oxidised. Fixing leaks in the fresh water system, keeping the water makers maintained and in the case now pickled, running up the mains and gens on a weekly basis which then requires the topsides to be washed down. Flushing through the a/c, clean all sea strainers, exercising valves, preparing the boat for viewings (as it is for sale) and I probably spend 2 hours a day on the phone to the owner. The deck hand spends most of her time recently removing and resealing all the caulking around the cap rails, varnishing, washing down on a weekly basis, (1 person takes 2 days to wash down properly inc decks) perparing and painting any rust and maintaining the yachts tenders which includes a 28ft Chris craft. I am currently researching the costs to rebuild or replace a genset for a potential buyer along with a breakdown of the general running costs of the vessel.

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What is behind the surge in new 60ft plus yacht designs and can you sail one safely without pro crew?

• Toby Hodges
• January 13, 2017

New yacht design has taken a giant leap in average length. Toby Hodges reports on the boom in big boats

Looking along the row of new yachts berthed stern-to at Cannes Boat Show in September, it seems impossible that just a few years ago a yard might hold up its 55-footer as the flagship of its fleet. In 2016, it’s the new yachts between 55ft and 80ft from the production yards that really stand out. So what has changed? Why the sudden surge in new large yachts and is it really possible to sail them without professional crew?

The 60ft plus market represents only around 120 yachts worldwide per year, but according to Oyster CEO David Tydeman, there is a need for variety. “Where Beneteau likes the fact that we series-build €5m boats, we like the fact that Beneteau does €1m series builds,” he says. “It brings people into the industry.”

Customers range from those wanting short-term sailing holidays and second home use, to those exercising long held dreams to sail offshore in the utmost comfort. It’s a wide range of people being targeted by a wide range of brands and from the list of boats yet to be launched, it’s evident that the majority of builders have bet against this size segment being a passing fad.

Who is building new yachts over 60ft?

The volume production yards have been growing their flagship models, mostly launched in the last year or two, to fulfil demand in the 55-65ft sector. This is perhaps indicative of an increasing number of impulsive buyers on today’s new yacht market; those who don’t want to wait for a couple of years for their yacht are going to be more attracted to the volume-built boats.

Models over 65ft are typically still the domain of luxury bluewater cruising brands, such as Oyster and Contest; prestige brands, such as CNB and Euphoria; or performance semi-custom designs from the likes of Swan, Solaris, Mylius and Advanced Yachts. Highlights include X-Yachts’s 65ft X6 (see X6 on test ), the Grand Soleil 58 Performance; Mylius’ striking new 76; the Turkish Euphoria 68 (see Euphoria 68 on test ) and the luxurious new Contest 67CS ( see video review here ), not to mention the new Oysters 675 and 745.

Contest 67CS: The owner of this first 67CS started sailing in Norway in September 2009, aged 40. Since then he has owned two yachts, completed an ARC crossing and sailed with his wife in the Caribbean five times a year. “We were looking for a bigger yacht for longer stays but which we can still sail with the two of us.” They plan to sail the boat themselves, but add that for “maintenance and preparations it is smart to have professionals who know our Contest 67CS.”

At the 60ft plus size range, yards have to be flexible to be competitive. Prospective buyers expect their yachts to be semi-customised; rather than simply ticking options boxes, they want the yard to listen to their individual choices, styles and needs.

Volume producers will offer a lengthy list of layouts, fabrics and finishes, while the high-end builders will typically offer major hull variations, including different transom designs, rig options, and appendage types, with interior layouts only really constrained by watertight bulkheads. Those braving the first of a new model line may get extra privileges in this respect.

Mylius 76: In many ways, Mylius’s yachts are a total contrast to the large, luxury cruising yachts of northern European yards. The all-carbon builds are super-minimalist throughout; modern turbo-charged Italian head-turners for smoking across the Med in style and enjoying the odd regatta. Pictured right is the flush-deck version. The deck saloon model (far right interiors) is novel and niche – a fascinating combination of space, speed and style.

High volume production

Of the volume yards, Hanse arguably led the way with its 630e back in 2006, 70 of which were built. Equally impressive is that the German yard then went on to sell 175 of its 575 in the last four years. This year Hanse launched the 675, its largest volume production yacht to date.

Hanse consistently wows with its loft-style interiors – more like a luxury apartment in fact on this, its largest model yet, the new 675.

Groupe Beneteau brands all now have yachts in the 60ft plus size range. The Bordeaux 60 caused a stir when it launched in 2008 – hull number 46 is in build – bringing trappings of superyacht glamour to the production market. The follow-up CNB 76 made a striking debut at Cannes in 2013. This contemporary Briand design uses an innovative construction method to reduce build time and cost. Seventeen of the €2m 76s have now sold, leading CNB to commission designs for a new smaller sister, the 66 (see page 33). To give some indication as to the demand at this size, CNB has already sold eight of the smaller yachts despite only releasing initial designs in September, and has also just announced it will take on 100 more workers to meet demand.

CNB 76: The 76 is a powerful yet elegant yacht with a well-camouflaged deck saloon, proper crew accommodation and a practical tender garage. A modular build scheme allows CNB to construct the entire interior of the 76 outside of the hull, dramatically reducing build time (to six months) and cost. The win-win result is superyacht styling and engineering, yet with a serial production price starting at €2m.

Unlike CNB, which is originally a builder of large custom yachts, the other volume production yards and Groupe Beneteau brands are upsizing. Superyacht designers Philippe Briand and Andrew Winch collaborated to produce one of the most successful of these – the Jeanneau 64 launched in 2014. It marries the worlds of big boat design, luxury and comfort with production boat pricing – its base price was kept below €1m – offering 10ft more yacht than an equivalent-priced semi-custom model.

Sister brand Beneteau has now followed suit with its Oceanis Yachts 62 this year. This is the first of a new luxury range from 53-73ft for which Beneteau went to a motorboat designer to find new styling solutions. The result is a bold look and a host of new comfort solutions throughout. Also, the goal with the pricing was even more ambitious than Jeanneau – its €650,000 base price shows how competitive pricing has become, even at this size level.

Oceanis Yachts 62: Beneteau is arguably the most innovative production yacht brand. Here it’s taken ideas and styling from its motorboat side to create this first of an entirely new line. The 62 brings a commendable feeling of luxury both on deck and below, plus has a proper tender launching solution for a Williams Jet Rib. The crunch part? Its base price starts at just €650,000.

Dufour will have a new 63ft flagship as of January, which, like the Oceanis Yachts, is the first of a new premium-end ‘Exclusive’ range.

All of which leaves Bavaria as the last big volume yard without a 60-footer. This is mainly down to its in-line production method, which has, to date, limited the maximum length of yacht it can build. However this summer Bavaria changed the set-up of one of its production lines to address this limitation, so we can presume that it’s only a question of time before the largest sailing Bavaria model yet is announced.

The practicalities

Large yachts are getting ever easier to handle. Push-button electrics and hydraulics that allow loads to be managed reliably have created new possibilities for managing sizable yachts short-handed. Thrusters – both bow and stern – are the norm at this size and can alleviate concerns with mooring, while advances in deck-gear technology have made sail-handling much easier.

As in the car industry, space has become king. Added length in yachts can bring increased comfort, elegance and speed, but there are downsides. With extra volume and weight comes a linear increase in the size and cost of each bit of deck gear and rigging needed to bear the extra loads.

Sailing a push-button power-assisted yacht might be a one-person affair, but managing and maintaining it is a different prospect altogether. Large yachts increase the crew’s dependence on powered systems and machinery, from gensets, watermakers, air con and thrusters to the hydraulics needed to operate winches, sail systems, garage doors etc. Keeping such a yacht shipshape is likely to involve a great deal of time afloat servicing machinery, or regular shore periods and pit stops. The less mechanically minded owners will probably need to employ a skipper or paid hand for this purpose.

Solaris: Once a custom yacht builder, Solaris has become a serial manufacturer of premium performance cruisers. Its range now spans from 37-72ft, with an Acebal-designed 55 and 68 in the pipeline.

Need for crew?

Up until 2011, when Hallberg-Rassy brought out its HR64, a yacht that was designed specifically for two people to sail and manage, I would have said that 57ft was the transition point from owner-operated yacht to crewed yacht. But yachts have continued to grow since then.

Skip Novak, who runs two expedition yachts – one 54ft and the other 74ft – says: “We can do things with [the 54ft] Pelagic that we wouldn’t dare do with Pelagic Australis . Pelagic is ‘man-handleable’, while the big boat at 74ft and 55 tonnes displacement is not. The systems on the smaller boat are by nature simpler, and the cruises usually are more trouble-free technically.”

Most new yachts over the 55ft mark have the option for a crew cabin of some sort. The big question is, are you happy sharing your yacht with paid hands? For temporary quarters, during a short charter for example, the forepeak-style box that is self-contained away from the rest of the accommodation may be all that is required in terms of accommodation. But for any owners seeking a longer-term crew – and wishing to retain reliable crew for any period of time – a more comfortable arrangement within the interior, like the use of a Pullman cabin, is necessary.

The current Oyster range spans the crossover between owner-operated yachts and crewed yachts, which helps to illustrate where the actual dividing line between the two might lie. For example, none of the 20 Oyster 625 owners uses a skipper full-time, although three of the 20 use skippers for when the boat is in charter mode. The new 675, which has been developed as a larger version of the 625, is also designed to be a yacht that can be owner-run. The new 745 on the other hand, which also launched this September, is designed to be run with two professional crew.

I sailed with Tim and Sybilla Beebe six years ago on a passage test of an Oyster 575 from Palma to Spain. They have since run an Oyster 68, a 72 and Tim is currently skippering Eddie Jordan’s Oyster 885, Lush. We discussed at what size level an owner should be thinking about employing a full-time crew.

“Firstly it’s dependent on experience,” says Beebe. “Can the owner sail the boat safely and do they want the responsibility? I agree that after 60ft, the time spent on upkeep starts to outweigh the enjoyment of it… unless you are living on it full-time.

“There are companies that will look after a 60ft boat and have it ready for owners when they arrive,” Beebe continued. “The amount of time needs to flexible. You can allot time for cleaning – inside and out – but maintenance must be flexible. There are always surprises.”

So where might a potential new owner be caught out? “The basic maintenance to keep the boat running is not too bad on a 60-footer but it’s the little bits that might get overlooked, which can quickly add up. You have to stay on top of everything. Winch maintenance, for example, might surprise the average new owner: to properly service all the winches takes a good deal of time – and is a once-a-season job.”

What advice would Beebe give owners of 60-70-footers looking to employ and keep a good crew? “Maintaining good relations is key. You all have to get on in a small space. From my experience, forward planning is nice to have, plus adequate time with guests off the boat for maintenance. Of course the occasional day off doesn’t go amiss either.”

Case study: Oyster 745 for bluewater cruising with family and friends

Henrik Nyman has sailed all his life on a variety of different sized boats, including owning and chartering various yachts and is now upgrading from an Oyster 625 to a 745 for bluewater cruising with friends and family. Why move to a yacht that needs crew? “Size alone is not a factor. For me, quality, engineering and function were my drivers… I thought 60ft was the maximum I could handle without crew, but in fact I feel that the 745 should be no trouble mainly due to very well thought-out functions and engineering. Handling is one part, but also you want crew for comfort, to go to the supermarket, some meals, formalities etc… I can sail basically alone but I want a good deckhand, mainly for safety purposes and for maintenance as well. “My biggest concern is that the equipment installed does not meet the same quality as the yacht itself. My experience from the 625 is that the majority if not all warranty issues are caused by third party installations.”

Case study: Discovery 67 – trading up for extra space

Simon Phillips is a highly experienced cruising and racing sailor, who has gradually scaled up in size from a Sonata, a Sadler 29, a Hanse 47e and a Discovery 55. He bought his 67ft Sapphire 2 of London this June and his main reason for trading up was to gain space. “ Sapphire is 40 per cent larger inside which makes a big difference if you’re planning to spend 18 to 24 months on board. My wife and I are actively planning for the World ARC.” Phillips hasn’t used a professional crew before, but has employed delivery companies to do short deliveries due to time pressures. He normally sails with friends and contacts. “Sapphire is much more technical than the Discovery 55. Her size requires more planning and thought on where you can go etc. While it is possible to sail the yacht single-handed you really need one crew on the helm and three on lines to come alongside in any sort of windy and tidal conditions.”

Showcase boats: Recent and upcoming launches in the 60ft plus category

Vismara 62: Vismara is a custom carbon yacht builder that has now introduced some semi-custom series. The V62 is based on the success of the Mark Mills designed racer-cruiser SuperNikka . A mould was taken from her hull and adapted to make it more cruiser friendly.

Hallberg-Rassy 64: “Push button controls are the only way you could handle a boat of this size without a big crew and our owners absolutely don’t want that,” said Magnus Rassy at the time of our HR64 test. “A huge amount of care has gone into making a boat that will be easy to sail long-distance, to maintain and to continue to use when things stop working.”

Dufour 63 Exclusive: Due to launch at the Düsseldorf Boat Show in 2017, Dufour’s new flagship is a response to those from Beneteau, Jeanneau and Hanse and is the first of its new Exclusive range. The 63 is a yacht that maximises exterior comfort with a 5m long cockpit and exterior galley option alongside a tender garage.

CNB 66: The Bordeaux 60 and CNB 76 have both been true success stories. This 66 is very much the smaller sister to the 76 and looks set to replace the 60. “With the 66 the idea was to be able to sail without crew,” says CNB’s Thomas Gailly. “So we wanted it to be very simple, with no lift keel option or retracting anchor arm – easy to maintain and use.”

Baltic 67: Over the past few years, Baltic Yachts has launched some of the finest new carbon superyachts, but its recent announcement of a new serially produced model marks a return to the more moderate-sized fast cruisers it was known for in the past.

Advanced Yachts 62: Advanced Yachts uses some of the leading design firms to represent Italian luxury performance at its best, with models from 44-100ft. And this new A62 looks simply sensational.

Amel 64: This is one of the first 60+ footers truly designed for a couple only for bluewater cruising.

Find out more here – or in the videos below.

Below is the video of our two day liveaboard test aboard the smaller sister Amel 55, a model which launched at a similar time to the 64 and shares her updated design features.

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• By Chris Caswell
• Updated: June 18, 2009

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A growing number of yachts are being operated “short-handed,” the nautical term for a voyage with fewer than the usual number of crew members. In the yachting world, it was not long ago that owning a 70-footer meant having a dedicated captain and at least one crew member.

Today, however, there are a growing number of yachts in the 60- to 80-foot range being handled by husband-and-wife teams. And this isn’t just weekend marina-hopping, either, but voyages that stretch the lengths of continents and span oceans.

John and Linda Langan who, in 16 months, have ranged from Alaska to Mexico and are currently in the Caribbean aboard their Nordhavn 47, are now accustomed to short-handed cruising. “At first it was daunting, now it’s no big thing,” they happily report.

A multitude of factors have not only made this possible, but desirable. Modern technology has provided warping winches that can turn a 100-pound woman into Arnold Schwarzenegger when it comes to handling dock lines, while bow and stern thrusters make docking easier. There are more young couples acquiring larger yachts these days, yet not really wanting paid crew. And at the other end, there are “empty-nesters,” who want to be able to take out family or friends occasionally, yet still remain independent.

Regardless of the reasons, boatbuilders are seizing on this new market, creating fleets of yachts aimed at short-handed cruisers. We talked to a number of owner-operators, as well as boatbuilders, to gather some of the hard-won tips and techniques that make short-handed cruising possible. Here’s a look at what we learned.

Pick the Right Yacht

The design features needed for short-handed cruising are a matter of common sense. One of the keys to simplified boat-handling, according to one skipper, is the ability to “be everywhere at once.”

This means you need wide side decks that allow you to move easily from bow to stern, with bulwarks or rails high enough to make movement underway safe. It requires having doors on each side of a pilothouse so the skipper can step out to lend a hand quickly. Look for flying bridge stairs that are conveniently located and safe in all conditions. Inside, a pilot berth or convertible settee might be a good idea, so a second person is close at hand during night passages.

Outfit the Yacht

Once you’ve chosen the yacht, you need to outfit it with short-handing in mind, which generally falls into two categories: Extra power and simplicity.

Docking is always the biggest concern for a husband-and-wife team, but several modern conveniences turn this into a “no worries” area. First, bow and stern thrusters allow the skipper to place the yacht precisely against a dock. Second, warping winches on the stern allow one person to easily move a 40-ton yacht. Third, remote helm controls put the skipper where he can see everything, as well as lend a hand as needed. And last (but certainly not least!), the dawn of Zeus or IPS drive power allows joystick control that can pivot the yacht in any direction and even hold station effortlessly.

For Barry and Alice Allred, the bow and stern thrusters aboard their Outer Reef 65, Risky Business, are a godsend. “Choosing hydraulic progressive Trac thrusters was our wisest investment,” says Barry. “I can place the boat against the dock and then hold it there indefinitely while I help with the docklines.” Progressive thrusters can be left in the thrusting position and, being hydraulic, can be used continuously because they don’t have overheating issues.

Warping winches were named as one of the most popular options by boatbuilders, and several owners noted that using them meant they could easily muscle in a spring line-even against wind and current. They also allow the positioning of the yacht to be done from on board, rather than relying on dock helpers. Lydia Biggie, who has cruised the length of the Eastern Seaboard with her husband, John, aboard their Outer Reef 73, SeeYa, always passes the eye of the dockline ashore, so she can control the length from on board.

The ability of the skipper to operate the engines and thrusters from locations other than the helm was also mentioned as very important by short-handed crews. Options include wing controls hidden in a bulwark outside the pilothouse or on the afterdeck, as well as corded control boxes that can be plugged in at various locations around the yacht. Aboard Risky Business, for example, plug locations include the bow (for anchoring), the stern, and both sides of the bridge.

Ample and properly sized fenders were mentioned as valuable to short-handers, because they protect the yacht until all the lines are secured. Several skippers mentioned that they have premarked fender lines, so they can be secured at a set height before being hung over the side. This is particularly important with large or heavy fenders being handled by a small person.

Another valuable piece of deck gear that short-handers mentioned is “a really long boathook” which can be used for placing looped docklines over pilings or cleats when there are no helpers ashore.

Prep the Crew

If there was one tip given by absolutely every short-handed couple, it was to talk everything through beforehand. “Plan ahead, and take your time,” says Lydia Biggie. “John and I will discuss the order of lines to be given to the dock help, because sometimes it varies.” Aboard Risky Business, Barry Allred also tells his wife which lines to set first, and she passes these directions to the dock helpers.

Both John Biggie and Barry Allred go a step further in their preparations: “I talk to the dockmaster by VHF beforehand,” says Allred, “to find out the exact slip location, the wind or current at that spot, and what’s around my slip. That way there are no surprises.” Lydia Biggie adds, “We find out at least half an hour beforehand what side of the dock we’ll be on, and if they are floating or stationary. That way I can estimate the height and position of the fenders.”

Just as important as crew preparation are crew communications. John Langan is succinct: “We use duplex two-way hands-free communications, and this is a marriagesaver!” Barry Allred also has several pairs of voice-activated Eartec headsets, adding a third unit so his daughter “could hear what was going on” when she was aboard. “These work fine, even in a breeze,” says Allred, noting that they allow two people to work without being in sight of each other.

Lowering and raising an anchor brings a host of new challenges but, again, modern technology and ingenuity simplify the task for short-handers. Barry Allred has anchor controls on his remote controller and, once plugged in at the bow, can direct the whole process as he watches.

Aboard SeeYa, the Biggies use hand signals to communicate from the bow to the pilothouse. “I look at him and signal and call ‘taking the pin out.’ This is the safety pin that prevents the anchor and chain from going down. Now John knows my hands are clear, and it’s okay to lower the anchor. We have one of those neat ‘chain counters’ so he can raise and lower the anchor from the wheel and know how many feet are out.”

The way the Langans aboard the Nordhavn 47 see it, “You can’t be too rich or too thin or have too many anchors. I use 400 feet of 7/16-inch chain and a 105-pound CQR. We set the CQR on the roller nearing the anchorage so that when we let the windlass out, it goes down by itself and my wife counts the 50-foot paint stripes to the required scope.” John adds, “All this I do from the pilothouse, since the windlass can be operated from there, the flybridge, or the bow.”

For raising the anchor, Lydia Biggie has painted three marks on the chain, but hers are near the anchor. “When I see these marks come out of the water, I take over raising the anchor. I can now do this slowly, make sure the anchor is free of sand, oriented properly and, finally, seated properly. Besides, by the time I take over the anchor, John needs to pay attention to steering the boat.”

When it comes to signaling, the Biggies keep it simple. “I point to where the anchor chain is, port or starboard, so John can use the bow thruster to line up the boat with the chain. I use a circular motion with my arm to indicate ‘keep the anchor coming up,’ and I put my hand up in a ‘stop’ motion to end pulling the anchor in.”

The biggest concern for most short-handers is a man overboard because, with just two people aboard, you only have half a crew to handle a serious crisis.

Most short-handers carry comfortable lifejackets in addition to the U.S. Coast Guard-required PFDs-either in the form of automatic inflatable life vests that don’t constrict movements, or as float coats to wear when weathering colder climates. But many short-handers also admitted that they don’t wear them often enough. “Unless the conditions are really bad,” said one, “we don’t put them on. I know we should, but we’re lazy.”

High bulwarks, double or even triple lifelines, and plenty of rails can create a false sense of security and we’d be remiss if we didn’t recommend that everyone on deck wear a life vest at all times.

Even in the best case scenario, when the MOB is wearing a flotation device, the situation is very dangerous because only one person is left to maneuver the yacht, spot the person in the water, and retrieve the crew. There are a multitude of devices designed to help locate and retrieve a crew member, large or small, from the water, and each has its pros and cons. Some require installations on the yacht, and all should be tested in practice situations with a full crew aboard in calm water. A dark night with your spouse in the water is no time to start reading the instructions.

The most popular MOB device for powerboats is the Lifesling, which comes in several variations but is basically a horseshoe- shaped collar that is thrown to the victim or towed behind the yacht so it can be reached without swimming for it.

It provides buoyancy as well as a secure attachment to the yacht and, when combined with lifting tackle on board, allows a smaller person to hoist a heavy and watersoaked victim on board.

Several short-handers that were interviewed have a basic rule: No one ever goes on deck without being watched. And one added that, when voyaging, they always bring the yacht to a complete stop before a crew member goes on deck.

Barry Allred uses a video camera that covers all the action on the afterdeck. “With that, one of us can be in the pilothouse and still keep an eye on the other if we’re rigging lines or fenders.”

Short-handed cruising a largish yacht may seem intimidating or even scary at first but, with a well-chosen yacht and the right equipment and practice, it can be a grand adventure.

“I wasn’t sure the two of us could do it,” says Barry Allred. “I was wrong…it’s great!”

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What Size Yacht Requires a Crew and a Captain?

It might be your yacht, but that doesn’t mean you have the chops to steer that baby over open water. That’s just the reality. Fortunately these days, yachts have evolved significantly, allowing individuals with little experience to successfully and safely take charge with little fear.

But even then, there are some yachts that are just too big for an amateur captain to handle. So if you’re not too experienced, or if you’re not confident in your skill, then you might have to hire someone to do it for you. The question now though is what size yacht requires a crew. Here’s what you need to know.

What Size Yachts Need a Captain and Crew?

There’s a lot that goes on aboard a yacht. And if you’re going out with just a small group of family and friends, you might find your hands full. While you might be able to get the job done, it kind of defeats the purpose in the first place, especially if you were heading out for a little rest and relaxation in your comfortably air-conditioned yacht .

Back in the day, yachts that were 70 feet in length required a captain, no questions asked. But today, yachts come with a range of features that make it possible for humble boat owners to be the captain of their own ship. These include joystick controls, stern thrusters, and warping winches.

That said, you might want to think about the size of your boat and whether you might be better off with a captain and crew. As a general rule, yachts that are 75 feet in length should do just fine without a crew. Of course, that’s given that you have upgraded features like autopilot to help ease the burden on your shoulders.

If you’ve got some experience, then you might be able to captain your own yacht up to 100 feet in length. But anything beyond that is often too large and complicated for an amateur or beginner, requiring more experienced personnel.

The Crew Members Required for a Yacht

Bigger yachts need more people because there’s more to do. If you’ve got a yacht that’s over 100-feet in length, then it’s imperative that you get more than just a captain. Here are some of the yacht crew members that you should definitely think of hiring.

He’s the guy that’s in charge of your boat in general. The captain doesn’t just steer, they also make sure that the rest of your crew is doing exactly what they need to do. You have to be careful in choosing your captain because they pretty much call the shots. And because there are unscrupulous captains out there posing as capable, honest yacht men, it’s vital that you check identification and qualifications.

You never know what might happen out at sea. If your captain falls ill, or if they can’t perform their function for whatever reason, it’s important that you have a first mate . These guys know exactly what the captain does, and they fill in the position if your lead somehow ends up out of commission.

Second Mate

A spare tire for your spare tire. The second mate knows what your first mate does, and knows what your captain does. While they might not be needed for short trips, they’re definitely important to have around for long excursions where both your captain and first mate might be unable to fulfill their role.

These guys are well-versed in all the technicalities that make your boat tick. They take care of the engine, the motor, and all other electrical components in your boat. They make sure everything runs smoothly, and they perform any necessary repairs to prevent accidents and poor performance. Again, engineers are necessary for long voyages.

Deckhands work to keep everything nice and tidy, not just for your comfort but for everyone’s safety. If you’ve got any equipment on board like jetskis or in unfortunate conditions where a life boat needs to be used, they’re in charge of providing necessary assistance to keep you safe during and after use, and to deploy these water toys.

Steward/ess

Think of them as the hospitality specialists. They relay any information from the captain to the guests on board. If you have any concerns, you can also course them through the stewards or stewardesses on board. If you have just a small population on board, then one or two of these crew mates should be enough.

Of course, you’re going to want some satisfying grub during your trip. It doesn’t hurt to hire a chef to prepare meals for you and your guest. And while a single chef might be enough, it might help to hire a sous chef along with him to streamline the preparation of all that food. Remember -- you’re feeding guests and crew, which might be a tall order for one chef.

How Much Does a Yacht Crew Cost?

It helps to know that most of the people who work as a yacht crew charge annually. The size of your boat also plays a role in the amount they’ll require. Bigger boats mean bigger pay, since there’s a lot more to take care of and look after on a bigger yacht.

• Captains - $1,000 per foot of board. If you've got a 75-foot yacht, that's $75,000 a year
• Engineers - Up to $130,000 a year
• Deckhands - Up to $50,000 a year
• Chef - Up to $70,000 a year

Since these prices aren’t cheap, you might want to consider your schedule to get the most out of your yacht and its crew’s annual fees. Some crews offer package deals, letting you book their team for a discounted price. For other members of the crew like stewards, security guards, instructors, and even life guards, there may be a separate charge.

All Aboard!

The whole purpose of a yacht is to enjoy, unwind, relax, and rest. But if you’ve got a pretty big boat, you kind of defeat the whole point if you try to manage that massive vessel all by yourself. So what size yacht requires a crew? That really depends on how much experience you have. But if you take it from us, having a crew just improves the overall experience, giving you more time to enjoy the open water with family and friends.

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What is the largest boat one can single hand?

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• Start date 14 Jan 2018
• 14 Jan 2018

Lighthouse_35

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Depends on your insurance and how big mentally you are prepared to fund gel coat repairs L is not the factor  

The ability to drive a boat singlehanded is only the tip of the iceberg. Nowadays with all the mod cons of bow and stern thrusters, pod drives, and even simple old fashioned twin shafts, big boats are very manoeuvrable...... but that’s only the beginning of it. What a half decent boat handler can manage in flat calm, windless conditions, with all gizmos working is not the same as when there’s a strong tide, a side wind, or something isn’t working properly like a bow thruster, or one engine. The problem is not what happens when things go wrong but because the boat is bigger the implications are more serious. Big boats weigh more and have considerably more momentum, the damage that follows is also larger and invariably more expensive. Even if you are the sort of boater who expects the odd scrape and ding, then do spare a thought for the individual on the other end of that “nudge” who may prefer his or her Boat to be like new at all times, And for whom even a blemish takes away some of his fun afloat ! A rule of thumb is, are there enough people on board to deal with the main issues, and if not then there should be.... Boat handling, making fast or releasing relevant lines, and being able to cope when something goes wrong - those are the things you need t9 think about, and for that you are the only one who can make the decision...... but a 60 ft Boat feels almost twice as big as a 50 ft boat, you can’t fend off by hand, nor pull a line tight by hand...... There are other factors to take into account too. It’s fun to clean and polish a 40 footer, buts it’s damn hard work on a 60 footer. Maintenance is greater, with more systems, and larger and more complex ones too. I have always had crew on anything over 55 foot..... not because I can’t drive it myself, but because I don’t want to do all the necessary chores. If the manufacturers include a crew cabin, then assume having crew is a good idea. If you have 3 strapping sons, or a big family of keen hands on boaters then you can manage fine without professional crew, but you will likely still need a hand for most regular boaty occurrences. Sorry I don’t have a more scientific reply. But if I had to guess, I would say that for any Boat from 12 tonnes (might be a better way to think about it rather than length) displacement up to about 30 tonnes displacement, then a competent driver and at least one extra capable pair of hands, Two pairs if they aren’t strong, or experienced ones. Anything over 30 tonnes, you need a good driver and a competent pair of hands at both ends....... Other essential crew roles include glass fillers, washer uppers, and a fantastic chef....... but I fear I may be digressing.  

• 15 Jan 2018

So ok listening to your feedback, I realize that 60 foot will be too big. So if I move it down a notch to 55 feet, how much does that help out?  

Lighthouse_35 said: So ok listening to your feedback, I realize that 60 foot will be too big. So if I move it down a notch to 55 feet, how much does that help out? Click to expand...

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As others have said, I think you need to account for conditions and also for potential failures that may be rare, but could happen, such as a bow thruster packing up. I single handed my last boat which was a 28ft single screw outdrive, but only did so once I was a year into using it and had confidence. Now I have a larger Targa 40 and would not single hand it. Even if I had more experience I would not do it, because the boat is sizable, and having my wife or a friend there ensures we have a second pair of eyes on berthing and close quarters. Also, the tide can really catch you and I wouldnt fancy being alone if conditions decided to get the better of me.  

Lighthouse_35 said: So been thinking of this, and I want general ideas on how large one can go in single handing. So would something like Princess yachts model 62 from the Flybridge collection be too large to effectively single hand? And what about if one has a helper like a spouse? Or is that too big? Any help is welcome! Click to expand...

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petem said: How much boating experience do you have? Click to expand...

If you have a partner that will help you should be fine with a 50 footer. On my Targa 40 my wife does the bow lines I drive the boat and do the stern lines. However if it is very windy that changes and I keep the boat in position untill the boat is secured. I occasionally single hand for test drives and for that purpose I have a remote on the bow thruster to keep the bow in position while I sort out the stern lines.  

john_morris_uk said: I suspect the answer might be in the question. PS IMHO you can single hand many sized craft, but you need to bold enough and brave enough to NOT do a manoeuvre and go and anchor or ask for help sometimes. People forget that there’s no law that says you have to park the boat back in its berth... Click to expand...

Boatbore said: The ability to drive a boat singlehanded is only the tip of the iceberg. Nowadays with all the mod cons of bow and stern thrusters, pod drives, and even simple old fashioned twin shafts, big boats are very manoeuvrable...... but that’s only the beginning of it. What a half decent boat handler can manage in flat calm, windless conditions, with all gizmos working is not the same as when there’s a strong tide, a side wind, or something isn’t working properly like a bow thruster, or one engine. The problem is not what happens when things go wrong but because the boat is bigger the implications are more serious. Big boats weigh more and have considerably more momentum, the damage that follows is also larger and invariably more expensive. Even if you are the sort of boater who expects the odd scrape and ding, then do spare a thought for the individual on the other end of that “nudge” who may prefer his or her Boat to be like new at all times, And for whom even a blemish takes away some of his fun afloat ! A rule of thumb is, are there enough people on board to deal with the main issues, and if not then there should be.... Boat handling, making fast or releasing relevant lines, and being able to cope when something goes wrong - those are the things you need t9 think about, and for that you are the only one who can make the decision...... but a 60 ft Boat feels almost twice as big as a 50 ft boat, you can’t fend off by hand, nor pull a line tight by hand...... There are other factors to take into account too. It’s fun to clean and polish a 40 footer, buts it’s damn hard work on a 60 footer. Maintenance is greater, with more systems, and larger and more complex ones too. I have always had crew on anything over 55 foot..... not because I can’t drive it myself, but because I don’t want to do all the necessary chores. If the manufacturers include a crew cabin, then assume having crew is a good idea. If you have 3 strapping sons, or a big family of keen hands on boaters then you can manage fine without professional crew, but you will likely still need a hand for most regular boaty occurrences. Sorry I don’t have a more scientific reply. But if I had to guess, I would say that for any Boat from 12 tonnes (might be a better way to think about it rather than length) displacement up to about 30 tonnes displacement, then a competent driver and at least one extra capable pair of hands, Two pairs if they aren’t strong, or experienced ones. Anything over 30 tonnes, you need a good driver and a competent pair of hands at both ends....... Other essential crew roles include glass fillers, washer uppers, and a fantastic chef....... but I fear I may be digressing. Click to expand...

longjohnsilver

I sometimes single hand our 48 footer, it's no big deal if you are well prepared with lines and fenders etc, but I much prefer to have someone with me to have another pair of eyes and hands, just makes it all more sociable and relaxed.  

Irish Rover

This is a question that has been exercising my mind as well since I decided to change my boat. My last 2 boats have been around 8M single engine sports cruisers. The most recent was a Jeanneau Leader. I recently bought a motorised catamaran 10.3 x 4.45 metres which I will take proper delivery of in early April. I frequently take the boat out alone day cruising or fishing and occasionally do short 1 or 2 day trips alone. Up to now I've managed quite well mainly because my home marina and most of the ones I visit have assisted docking. I imagine I will get used to the new boat in time but in the meantime I'm a bit apprehensive.  

Having gone from a 30ft SD to 44ft SD to 43ft IPS to another 43ft IPS to a 64ft shaft. The most difficult to control (if you discount my total in-experience in the 30ft) would of been the 44ft SD (gobbi 425sc) never really got to grips with it. By far the easiest of the 5 boats is my current 64ft (targa 64) shaft drive boat, a combination of big props with loads of bite and hydraulic bow/stern thrusters with remote, makes the boat a very predictable beast to berth. I've single handed all my boats, but tbh i try to avoid it where possible and think its always better to have a companion on-board, even if they don't have a specific role/purpose, just in case you fall ill or fall off !!  

IMO, the bigger the boat, the easier it is to handle. I don't consider handling to be the issue. After all, what do the crew do whilst you are actually handling the boat? Docking is probably the place where help is needed. The problem comes if something goes wrong. On passage, again, everything is fine until something goes wrong. I single hand our Princess 67 but most of the time, there is a crew (or someone who can "be an extra pair of hands") Last year, rather than wait for SWMBO to come out to the marina in Spain, I single handed the boat across to Mallorca. Then flew SWMBO out to Palma - thus giving me an extra 3 or 4 days in the islands. In fact, I was "in company " with another boat for about 75% of the way and there were yachtie friends in Palmanova when I got there. It was very rewarding and I would do it again. As far as the boat was concerned, she didn't even know that I was the only one on board. It is all about planning. Getting away was easy - I just found an empty space of water to put all the fenders away. Under way, it was just the auto pilot and me "on watch" all the time (whereas with crew, we would share the watch). On arrival, manoeuvring the boat was just as usual - only instead of SWMBO lowering the anchor from the fore-deck, I used the flybridge remote switches. Again - preparation - released the anchor ready for launch before approaching the anchorage. It was a couple of days before SWMBO joined and I moved the boat to other anchorages on my own. Recovering the anchor is a little more difficult - we have a big Rocna and it really needs to be stowed on board carefully - during that time, I have to be on the fore-deck so I was watching the drift all the time. In fact, conditions were so good that there wasn't any problems. And thats the point, you always "factor in" the conditions. In the Med there are no tides so it is really only wind and other idiots to watch out for. If I need to go into a marina, I would contact the dockmasters for their help. If the conditions were bad, there is always the waiting pontoon/berth where you can pick up some helpful dockmasters. So, to recap. Actually handling isn't the problem. It is always what could happen if anything went wrong. So, that said, the size of the boat isn't the big factor.  

Irish Rover said: This is a question that has been exercising my mind as well since I decided to change my boat. My last 2 boats have been around 8M single engine sports cruisers. The most recent was a Jeanneau Leader. I recently bought a motorised catamaran 10.3 x 4.45 metres which I will take proper delivery of in early April. I frequently take the boat out alone day cruising or fishing and occasionally do short 1 or 2 day trips alone. Up to now I've managed quite well mainly because my home marina and most of the ones I visit have assisted docking. I imagine I will get used to the new boat in time but in the meantime I'm a bit apprehensive. Click to expand...

Hurricane is spot on. About 4 weeks ago I moved the Boat round the marina ( andraxt). I was on board for the week and my spot was pretty bouncy. There was me. 2 marinaros in the Boat , 2 on the dock. It was blowing a gale ( literally a real gale ) and with all those people it still went a bit wrong. Med mooring on a nice day with a boat either side no problem. Come in stick a line mid cleat to mid cleat with the Boat next door and slowly do the ropes Much simpler all round with someone else on board in general.  

Hurricane IS spot on as usual. I have a 36 foot LOA sports cruiser. The length some say is still manageable. I'd say that is very much boat dependant. I could handle mine all day solo but have to have crew for docking. No way round it unless the conditions are perfectly calm as I simply cannot get from the helm to a cleat and back to the helm again should something go wrong or I miss my throw because where I am you typically get one chance only and then have redo the manoeuvre. Also who handles the fender when things go awry otherwise? It's my experience the fenders hung from the sides / freeboard are never quite suitable when you are about to hit someone else's boat. Rails, stern quarter corners, pulpits etc seem to gravitate there of their own free will. If you have dockside help, all is fine, but that's not solo handling. For me the criteria would be boat layout, remote control availability, home berth typical prevailing conditions that precede size  

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Exploring Yacht Size: Sail Solo Without a Crew

When it comes to sailing solo without a crew, selecting the right yacht size is crucial for a successful and enjoyable experience. The size of the yacht will depend on various factors, including individual preferences, budget, and sailing plans. Small yachts, typically between 35 to 45 feet, offer easier handling and maneuverability, making them ideal for solo sailors. On the other hand, larger yachts provide more speed, stability, carrying capacity, and comfort systems. However, they also come with higher purchase and ownership costs. It’s important to consider the choice between a monohull and a catamaran, with monohulls being more common for solo circumnavigation. Catamarans, on the other hand, offer comfort and stability at anchor but can be less comfortable in challenging weather conditions. Safety risks exist for both types of boats, and realistic risk assessment is essential. When selecting a yacht size, it is crucial to consider individual living space and performance requirements. Yachts under 25 feet are suitable for specialized adventures, while yachts between 25 to 45 feet are often considered the sweet spot for most cruisers, offering a balance between cost, comfort, and speed. Larger yachts over 50 feet provide more space and comfort but also come with higher costs. Ultimately, it is important to align the size of the yacht with personal sailing plans and budget.

Key Takeaways: 1. Selecting the right yacht size is crucial for solo sailing without a crew. 2. Small yachts offer easier handling and maneuverability, while larger yachts provide more speed and comfort. 3. Consider the choice between a monohull and a catamaran based on individual needs and preferences. 4. Assess safety risks realistically for both types of boats. 5. Choose a yacht size based on individual living space and performance requirements, considering specialized adventures or long-term lifestyles. 6. Yachts between 25 to 45 feet are often considered the sweet spot for most cruisers, offering a balance between cost, comfort, and speed. 7. Larger yachts over 50 feet provide more space and comfort but come with higher costs.

Factors to Consider for Solo Sailing

There are several important factors to consider when deciding on the dimensions of a crew-free yacht for solo sailing, including the size of luxury yachts that can be enjoyed without a crew. One of the primary considerations is the size of the yacht itself. Small boats, typically between 35 to 45 feet, are easier to handle and maneuver, making them a popular choice for solo sailors. They offer increased agility and responsiveness, allowing for greater control in various weather conditions.

On the other hand, larger yachts provide advantages such as increased speed, stability, and carrying capacity. With more space, they can accommodate additional comfort systems and tools that make handling easier. However, it is essential to keep in mind that larger boats come with higher purchase and ownership costs.

The choice between a monohull and a catamaran is another factor to consider. Monohulls are more commonly used for solo circumnavigation, offering a traditional sailing experience. Catamarans, on the other hand, provide comfort and stability at anchor, making them an excellent choice for those who prioritize leisurely cruising. It’s important to note that catamarans can be uncomfortable in rough conditions.

“When it comes to solo sailing, safety should always be a top priority. Assessing the risks associated with your chosen yacht size and understanding the safety features and equipment required is crucial for a safe and enjoyable solo sailing experience.”

Ultimately, the size of the yacht should align with an individual’s living space and performance requirements, as well as their overall sailing plans and budget. It is essential to consider both the practical aspects, such as handling and maneuverability, as well as personal preferences for comfort and functionality.

Benefits of Small Yachts for Solo Sailing

Opting for a smaller yacht size without crew offers numerous advantages for solo sailors, including enhanced handling capabilities and smaller dimensions suitable for crew-free sailing. Smaller yachts, typically ranging from 25 to 45 feet, provide greater maneuverability, allowing solo sailors to navigate tight spaces and handle the boat with ease.

These compact dimensions also make small yachts more manageable for single-handed sailing, as they require less physical effort to operate. Additionally, smaller yachts tend to have shallower drafts, allowing access to shallower anchorages and secluded coves that larger boats may not be able to reach. This enables solo sailors to explore lesser-known destinations and enjoy more intimate sailing experiences.

Furthermore, smaller yachts often come with lower purchase and ownership costs, making them more budget-friendly for solo sailors. Maintenance, docking fees, and insurance premiums are generally lower for smaller vessels compared to larger luxury yachts. This allows solo sailors to allocate their financial resources towards other aspects of their sailing adventures, such as exploring new destinations or investing in upgraded equipment.

In summary, opting for a smaller yacht size without crew provides solo sailors with increased maneuverability, accessibility to unique locations, and cost-saving benefits. It allows for a more intimate and personal sailing experience, while still providing the necessary comfort and functionality for solo sailing adventures.

While smaller yachts have their advantages, larger yacht sizes without a crew offer greater speed, stability, carrying capacity, and access to advanced comfort systems and tools for ease of handling. For solo sailors looking to cover long distances quickly, larger yachts provide the necessary speed to navigate through different weather conditions effectively. With a larger sail area and more powerful engines, these yachts can maintain higher speeds, allowing solo sailors to reach their destinations in a shorter amount of time.

In terms of stability, larger yachts are less prone to rolling and pitching motions, providing a smoother and more comfortable sailing experience. This stability becomes especially important when sailing in rough seas or adverse weather conditions, as it reduces the risk of capsizing or losing control of the yacht. Additionally, larger yachts offer a higher carrying capacity, allowing solo sailors to bring along more supplies, equipment, and personal belongings for extended journeys. The additional storage space also comes in handy for stowing safety equipment and spare parts.

One of the major advantages of larger yachts without a crew is the availability of advanced comfort systems and tools that make handling easier for solo sailors. These yachts often come equipped with features such as electric winches, automated rigging systems, and bow thrusters, which streamline sailing operations and minimize physical exertion. This means that solo sailors can handle larger yachts single-handedly without the need for additional crew members.

However, it’s important to note that larger yacht sizes also come with higher purchase and ownership costs. The initial investment for a larger yacht is typically higher, and maintenance, marina fees, and insurance costs can also be more substantial. It’s crucial for solo sailors to consider their budget and financial capabilities when deciding on the dimensions of their yacht without a crew. Striking a balance between the desired size and the associated costs is key to ensuring a sustainable sailing experience.

Considerations for Monohulls and Catamarans

When considering yacht size without a crew, it’s important to consider the pros and cons of monohulls and catamarans to find the right fit for your solo sailing adventure. Monohulls, which are traditional single-hulled boats, are more commonly used for solo circumnavigation. They offer a sense of simplicity and are known for their good upwind performance. On the other hand, catamarans, which have two hulls, provide greater comfort and stability at anchor.

When selecting the right yacht size without a crew, it’s important to consider the trade-offs between monohulls and catamarans. If you prioritize simplicity, good upwind performance, and lower maintenance costs, a monohull may be the better choice. However, if comfort, stability, and spacious living areas are your main concerns, a catamaran may be more suitable. Ultimately, the decision should be based on your individual preferences, sailing plans, and budget.

When it comes to solo sailing, choosing the right yacht size without a crew is essential. Small boats, typically ranging from 35 to 45 feet, are easier to handle and maneuver. They offer a sense of independence and are well-suited for solo adventurers who prefer a more hands-on approach. These smaller yachts provide the freedom to explore secluded anchorages and navigate narrow channels with ease.

On the other hand, larger yachts offer advantages in terms of speed, stability, and carrying capacity. They come equipped with more comfort systems and tools to make handling easier. However, it’s important to consider that bigger boats come with higher purchase and ownership costs. These larger yachts require more crew or advanced sailing skills to operate efficiently.

The choice between a monohull and a catamaran is another factor to consider. Monohulls are more common for solo circumnavigation due to their simplicity and traditional appeal. Catamarans, on the other hand, offer increased comfort and stability at anchor, making them popular choices for extended cruising. However, they can be uncomfortable in heavy seas and may have higher purchase and maintenance costs.

When choosing the size of your yacht without a crew, it’s important to assess the risks realistically and prioritize your individual living space and performance requirements. Yachts under 25 feet are suitable for specialized adventures rather than long-term lifestyles. Yachts between 25 to 45 feet are considered the sweet spot for most cruisers, offering a balance between cost, comfort, and speed. Yachts over 50 feet provide more space and comfort but come with higher costs.

Safety Considerations for Solo Sailing

Solo sailors must carefully evaluate the safety risks associated with both monohulls and catamarans, taking into account the dimensions of crewless luxury yachts and considering any potential safety concerns. When sailing alone, it’s important to have a yacht that is capable of handling the demands of solo navigation, ensuring a safe and enjoyable experience.

Monohulls are a popular choice for solo circumnavigation due to their simplicity and reliability. With their single hull design, they offer stability in rough seas and have a long history of successful solo journeys. However, it’s crucial to choose a monohull that is suitable for solo sailing, considering factors such as size, weight, and handling characteristics.

Catamarans, on the other hand, provide added comfort and stability at anchor. Their dual-hull design offers more living space and allows for better weight distribution, making them suitable for extended periods on board. However, it’s important to note that catamarans can be less comfortable in challenging conditions, as they are more prone to slamming and may require additional attention to maintain stability.

Regardless of the chosen yacht type, solo sailors should always prioritize safety when considering dimensions. It’s essential to assess the yacht’s stability, maneuverability, and self-sufficiency. Safety features such as adequate lifelines, grab rails, and easy access to essential equipment should also be considered. Additionally, taking into account weather conditions, route planning, and emergency preparedness are vital for a safe solo sailing experience.

Ultimately, the dimensions of crewless luxury yachts should align with the individual’s sailing abilities, preferences, and safety requirements. By carefully evaluating these factors, solo sailors can make an informed decision that ensures a safe and enjoyable journey on the open seas.

Tailoring Yacht Size to Individual Needs

The ideal yacht size without a crew should be based on individual preferences, including the desired living space and performance requirements for solo sailing adventures. When considering the dimensions of a crew-free sailing yacht, it’s important to strike a balance between comfort, maneuverability, and cost.

For those looking for specialized adventures rather than long-term lifestyles, yachts under 25 feet can offer unique sailing experiences. These compact vessels are perfect for exploring shallow waters and secluded coves. Their smaller dimensions also make them more affordable in terms of purchase and ownership costs. Plus, their maneuverability allows for easy navigation in tight spaces.

On the other hand, yachts between 25 to 45 feet are the sweet spot for most cruisers. They provide a comfortable living space while still being manageable for solo sailors. These dimensions offer a good balance between cost, comfort, and speed, making them versatile options for different sailing plans.

For those seeking more space and luxury, larger yachts over 50 feet can provide the ultimate sailing experience. With their increased dimensions, these yachts offer ample living space, stability, and carrying capacity. However, it’s important to keep in mind that larger vessels come with higher purchase and ownership costs. It’s crucial to align the yacht size with individual budget constraints.

When choosing the ideal dimensions for a yacht without a crew, it’s essential to consider personal preferences and sailing goals. Whether it’s a compact vessel for specialized adventures or a spacious yacht for long-term cruising, finding the right size will ensure a memorable and enjoyable solo sailing experience.

Specialized Adventures with Small Yachts

Yachts under 25 feet in size are ideal for those seeking specialized adventures rather than long-term lifestyles, offering compact dimensions suitable for crewless motor yachts and the pursuit of unique sailing experiences. These small yachts provide the perfect opportunity to explore hidden coves, navigate shallow waters, and venture into tighter spots that larger vessels may not be able to access.

With their nimble handling and maneuverability, small yachts are well-suited for sailing in rivers, lakes, and coastal areas. They can be easily trailered, allowing for effortless transport and the ability to explore different bodies of water. Whether you’re planning a weekend getaway, fishing trip, or solo exploration, these small yachts offer the freedom and flexibility to create unforgettable memories on the water.

If you’re interested in embarking on specialized adventures such as fishing expeditions or day sailing trips, yachts under 25 feet provide the perfect platform. With their compact dimensions, these crewless motor yachts offer efficiency and versatility, allowing you to navigate with ease and focus on the activities you love. From casting a line in search of the perfect catch to enjoying a leisurely day under sail, these small yachts offer endless possibilities for exciting and unique experiences.

The Sweet Spot: Yachts between 25 to 45 feet

For the majority of solo sailors, yachts between 25 to 45 feet offer the perfect balance between cost, comfort, and speed, making them the ideal dimensions for crewless sailing yachts. These boats provide enough space to accommodate essential amenities and equipment while remaining manageable for single-handed sailing. With their moderate size, they strike a balance between being nimble enough to handle in various conditions and offering the necessary stability for extended journeys.

Yachts in this size range often come with a range of features and capabilities that cater to the needs of solo sailors. They typically offer comfortable living spaces, including sleeping quarters, a galley, and a bathroom, providing all the essentials for extended stays at sea. Additionally, they have sufficient storage capacity to carry food, clothing, and equipment, ensuring self-sufficiency during long voyages.

The dimensions of crewless yachts between 25 to 45 feet also contribute to their affordability. These boats are more cost-effective to purchase and maintain compared to larger vessels. Additionally, their moderate size leads to lower docking and mooring fees, making them a practical choice for solo sailors on a budget.

In terms of speed, yachts in this size range offer adequate performance. They are designed to strike a balance between speed and stability, allowing solo sailors to navigate efficiently and comfortably. While larger yachts may offer more speed, the difference is often not significant enough to justify the higher costs associated with increased dimensions.

Ultimately, when it comes to solo sailing without a crew, it is crucial to choose a yacht size that meets individual requirements. Yachts between 25 to 45 feet provide the perfect dimensions for most solo sailors, striking a balance between cost, comfort, and speed. Whether embarking on adventurous expeditions or leisurely cruises, these crewless sailing yachts offer the ideal platform for unforgettable solo sailing experiences.

The Allure of Larger Yachts

Larger yacht sizes over 50 feet offer a greater amount of space and comfort for solo sailors, but it’s essential to be aware of the higher costs that come with these crew-free superyacht dimensions . If you prioritize luxurious amenities and spacious living quarters, a larger yacht might be the perfect choice for your solo sailing adventure. These yachts provide ample room for relaxation and entertainment, with multiple cabins, gourmet kitchens, and expansive deck spaces.

One of the key advantages of larger yachts is the increased carrying capacity they offer. With more storage space, you can bring along all the necessary supplies for extended voyages without sacrificing comfort. These yachts are also equipped with advanced technology and systems to enhance your sailing experience, such as stabilizers for a smoother ride, advanced navigation tools, and powerful engines for increased speed.

However, it’s important to consider the financial implications of owning a larger yacht. The purchase price, maintenance costs, insurance, and mooring fees can be significantly higher compared to smaller vessels. It’s crucial to factor in these additional expenses when determining the feasibility of owning and operating a crew-free superyacht. Careful budgeting and financial planning are necessary to ensure a seamless and enjoyable solo sailing experience.

Ultimately, the decision to choose a larger yacht for solo sailing depends on your personal preferences, sailing goals, and budget. If space, comfort, and luxurious amenities are of utmost importance, and you are willing to invest in the additional costs, a crew-free superyacht can provide an unparalleled sailing experience. However, it’s essential to carefully evaluate the financial implications and ensure that the dimensions of a larger yacht align with your long-term plans and budget.

Selecting the appropriate yacht size without a crew should be a careful decision that takes into account individual sailing plans and budget, ensuring that the dimensions of luxury yachts align with personal preferences and financial considerations. When it comes to solo sailing, finding the right balance between size, cost, and comfort is essential.

For most cruisers, yachts between 25 to 45 feet offer the ideal dimensions. They provide a sweet spot in terms of cost, comfort, and speed. These yachts are large enough to offer a comfortable living space, yet small enough to be easily handled and maneuvered by a single sailor. They strike the perfect balance for adventurers who seek independence without compromising on necessary amenities.

However, it’s important to consider that larger yachts, typically over 50 feet, offer more space and comfort. These dimensions come with higher purchase and ownership costs, including maintenance, insurance, and other expenses. It’s crucial to assess the financial feasibility of owning a larger yacht and ensure it aligns with the intended sailing plans and budget.

When considering yacht size, the choice between a monohull and a catamaran is another factor to keep in mind. Monohulls are more common for solo circumnavigation, while catamarans offer enhanced comfort and stability at anchor. Each option has its advantages and disadvantages, and personal preferences play a crucial role in deciding the dimensions of the yacht.

In summary, choosing the perfect yacht size without a crew involves considering individual sailing plans and budget. It necessitates finding the right balance between cost, comfort, and performance requirements. By aligning the dimensions of luxury yachts with personal preferences and financial considerations, solo sailors can embark on their adventures with confidence and peace of mind.

Choosing Your Perfect Yacht Size

With the information provided, it’s time to choose your perfect yacht size without a crew, considering the range of dimensions available for crew-free sailing and finding the one that fits your unique requirements. When it comes to yacht size for solo sailing, there is no one-size-fits-all answer. However, there are a few key considerations that can guide your decision-making process.

Firstly, think about the handling and maneuverability of the yacht. Smaller boats, typically between 25 to 45 feet, are easier to handle and maneuver, making them more suitable for solo sailors who may not have assistance on board. These boats are often more cost-effective and easier to maintain.

On the other hand, larger yachts can offer increased speed, stability, and carrying capacity. They also provide more space and comfort systems, making extended solo sailing more enjoyable. However, it’s important to consider that larger boats come with higher purchase and ownership costs, both in terms of initial investment and ongoing expenses such as fuel, maintenance, and insurance.

Another aspect to consider is the choice between a monohull and a catamaran. Monohulls are more common for solo circumnavigation, as they offer better upwind performance and are known for their seaworthiness. Catamarans, on the other hand, provide greater comfort and stability at anchor, but they can be less comfortable in certain weather conditions. Assessing the risks and the specific requirements of your sailing plans is crucial in making the right choice between these two types of boats.

Factors to Consider for Choosing Yacht Size Without a Crew:

• Handling and maneuverability
• Speed, stability, and carrying capacity
• Space and comfort systems
• Initial and ongoing costs
• Choice between monohulls and catamarans

With these factors in mind, take the time to assess your living space and performance requirements as an individual sailor. Consider the specific adventures you have in mind and how the chosen yacht size will support your goals. Whether you prefer smaller vessels for specialized adventures or larger yachts for extended cruising, finding the right dimensions is essential to ensuring a safe and enjoyable solo sailing experience.

Remember, there is no one-size-fits-all answer, but by considering these factors and aligning your yacht size with your plans and budget, you can embark on the journey of a lifetime with confidence and excitement. Happy sailing!

When it comes to sailing solo without a crew, choosing the right yacht size is essential. While there is no one-size-fits-all answer, the most common size range for solo sailing is between 35 to 45 feet. Small boats are easier to handle and maneuver, while larger boats offer more speed, stability, and carrying capacity. Bigger boats can also have more comfort systems and tools to make handling easier. However, larger boats come with higher purchase and ownership costs.

Exploring yacht ownership costs is an important step in selecting the appropriate yacht dimensions for crew-free motor yachts and crew-free superyachts, considering expenses such as maintenance, insurance, and other financial obligations. Owning a yacht involves regular maintenance and servicing to ensure its optimal performance and longevity. This includes routine inspections, cleaning, and repairs to keep the vessel in top condition. Insurance is also a crucial aspect of yacht ownership, protecting against unforeseen events, accidents, and damage. Additionally, there are other associated costs, such as docking fees, fuel, crew (if needed), and any ongoing upgrades or modifications.

Considering these expenses is crucial when selecting the dimensions of crew-free motor yachts and crew-free superyachts. It’s important to determine the budget available for yacht ownership and the ongoing costs that will be incurred. By carefully assessing ownership costs and aligning them with personal financial capabilities, individuals can make an informed decision about the size of the yacht that best suits their needs and budget. Ultimately, the dimensions of the yacht should provide both an enjoyable sailing experience and a sustainable ownership journey.

The Freedom of Solo Sailing

Solo sailing offers a remarkable sense of freedom and independence, allowing sailors to explore the vast oceans with crew-free yachts that perfectly fit their solo sailing dimensions. When choosing the right yacht size for solo adventures, there are various factors to consider. Small boats, typically ranging from 25 to 45 feet, are easier to handle and maneuver. They offer flexibility and agility, enabling solo sailors to navigate through tight spaces and challenging conditions.

Larger boats, on the other hand, provide advantages such as increased speed, stability, and carrying capacity. With more space, comfort systems, and tools, handling becomes easier for those looking for a more luxurious sailing experience. However, it is important to note that bigger boats come with higher purchase and ownership costs. These costs include maintenance, insurance, fuel, and docking fees, among others. Therefore, it is crucial to align the size of the yacht with personal sailing plans and budget constraints.

When deciding between a monohull and a catamaran, it is worth considering the type of sailing experience desired. Monohulls are commonly used for solo circumnavigation due to their seaworthiness and sailing performance. On the other hand, catamarans offer increased comfort and stability at anchor, but may be less comfortable in rough weather conditions. Safety is a paramount concern for solo sailors, and it is essential to assess the risks associated with both types of boats realistically.

Ultimately, selecting the perfect yacht size without a crew depends on individual living space and performance requirements. Whether it’s a small boat for specialized adventures or a larger vessel for long-term cruising, finding the right dimensions ensures a satisfying and safe solo sailing experience. So set sail and embrace the freedom that comes with solo sailing, as you navigate the open seas in your crew-free yacht perfectly suited to your chosen dimensions.

In conclusion, choosing the right yacht size without a crew is a personal decision that should take into account individual requirements, acknowledging the dimensions of crew-free yachts and aligning them with personal preferences, plans, and budget.

When it comes to solo sailing, the size of the yacht plays a crucial role in the overall experience. Small yachts, typically between 25 to 45 feet, offer easier handling and maneuverability, making them ideal for solo adventurers. They strike a balance between cost, comfort, and speed, providing an enjoyable sailing experience without compromising on essentials.

On the other hand, larger yachts over 50 feet provide more spacious living areas, increased comfort, and additional amenities. They offer faster speeds, greater stability, and enhanced carrying capacity. However, it’s important to note that these larger dimensions come with higher purchase and ownership costs.

When deciding between a monohull and a catamaran, consider the sailing plans and conditions you’ll be encountering. Monohulls are more commonly used for solo circumnavigation, while catamarans offer increased comfort and stability at anchor. Both options have their pros and cons, so it’s vital to realistically assess the safety risks and select the dimensions that best suit your needs.

Ultimately, the choice of yacht size should be guided by individual living space and performance requirements. Specialized adventures can be enjoyed with yachts under 25 feet, while the sweet spot for most cruisers lies between 25 to 45 feet. However, if space and comfort are paramount, larger yachts may be the preferred option, despite the higher costs involved.

By carefully considering these factors and aligning them with personal preferences, plans, and budget, solo sailors can find the perfect yacht size that will enable them to embark on their sailing adventures with confidence and freedom.

Q: What is the most common size range for solo sailing without a crew?

A: The most common size range for solo sailing without a crew is between 35 to 45 feet.

Q: What are the benefits of smaller yachts for solo sailing?

A: Smaller yachts are easier to handle and maneuver.

Q: What are the advantages of larger yachts for solo sailing?

A: Larger yachts offer more speed, stability, carrying capacity, and comfort systems.

Q: Should I choose a monohull or a catamaran for solo sailing?

A: Monohulls are more common for solo circumnavigation, while catamarans offer comfort and stability at anchor.

Q: What are the safety considerations for solo sailing?

A: Safety risks exist for both monohulls and catamarans, and it’s important to assess the risks realistically.

Q: How should I tailor the yacht size to my individual needs?

A: The size of the yacht should be based on individual living space and performance requirements.

Q: Are yachts under 25 feet suitable for long-term lifestyles?

A: Yachts under 25 feet are more suitable for specialized adventures rather than long-term lifestyles.

Q: What is the sweet spot for most cruisers when it comes to yacht size?

A: Yachts between 25 to 45 feet offer a balance between cost, comfort, and speed.

Q: What are the allure and costs of larger yachts?

A: Larger yachts provide more space and comfort but come with higher costs.

Q: How should I choose the perfect yacht size?

A: Consider your sailing plans and budget, and find the dimensions that best suit your needs.

Q: What are the costs associated with yacht ownership?

A: Yacht ownership costs include maintenance, insurance, and other expenses.

Q: What is the freedom of solo sailing?

A: Solo sailing offers freedom and independence to explore unique experiences and adventures.

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HOW BIG OF A YACHT WITHOUT CREW

The “crew” issue is a topic that interests many owners when designing their yacht. One wonders if a yacht without a crew is possible. However, to understand if this request is feasible, it is important to clarify these aspects with the Shipyard:

• What will be one of your yachts? How long is everything going to use it?

Is the owner able to maneuver the yacht in complete autonomy?

• How big is your boat? Will I be able to manage it autonomously safely?

For clarification, it is essential to consider that the crew can be divided between technical staff (captain, mechanical engineer, etc.) and service staff (steward, chef, hostess, etc.) – usually employed in larger yachts.

What will be the use of your yacht? How long are you going to use it per year?

At the time of design, it is already clear to its owner what the use of his boat will be.

There are those owners who love to steer their boat, others who only seek the pleasure of cruising. There are those who prefer to have the boat all to themselves, and those who prefer to have a crew at their service. There are also those who love to use the boat all year round and those who can use it only a few months a year.

The intended use of your boat also conditions the choices related to the crew.

A boat that will be used as a Charter Yacht will have to provide not only the technical personnel required by law but also the service personnel.

If instead, its use is personal, it will be possible to reserve less space for the crew members, as the guests will carry out the duties on board.

PLEASE NOTE: The rules on the number and type of personnel on board are dictated and imposed by the Navigation Class and the flag, as well as by the size of the boat. It will, therefore, be important to evaluate all these aspects well with the construction site during the design phase.

In order to navigate and maneuver the boat, you need a boat license and all the certifications suitable for cruising. It is also necessary to have a minimum of technical notions to be put into practice in case of a failure while in the middle of the sea. There are true sea enthusiasts who have all the knowledge necessary to steer their yacht in complete safety, but also those who see time on board as vacation and who prefer to have someone do things for them.

The bigger the yacht, the more the presence on board of technical figures with specific skills will be necessary. In addition, a large yacht also requires greater care also in terms of maintenance.

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Division of flows as an optimal solution.

The study of guest-crew flows, if done carefully, guarantees extreme discretion. A clever division of the spaces ensures that the work areas do not interfere with the spaces dedicated to guests.

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During the design phase, the Shipyard can meet with ad hoc solutions.

Each station has been equipped with all the controls and displays necessary to have full control of the boat.

These solutions come in handy while sailing, but a Navetta 26 needs a fixed presence on board even when it is moored in the Port. A remote monitoring system has been installed on board to manage current onboard, space heating/cooling, etc.

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Largest Boat You Can Operate Yourself: Discovering the Size Limitations for Solo Boat Operators

Do you dream of cruising the open waters in a vessel that’s big enough to accommodate your family and friends but small enough to operate on your own? If so, you’re in luck! In this article, we’ll explore the largest boat you can operate yourself and give you some tips on how to make the most of your boating adventure.

Generally, a boat up to 40-50 feet long can be operated solo. However, this depends on the operator’s skill, experience, and the boat’s setup, including automation and technology. Some experienced sailors may handle larger vessels, but safety and manageability become increasing concerns.

Whether you’re a seasoned boater or a novice, we’ll help you find the perfect vessel to suit your needs and make your next boating trip one to remember. So sit back, relax, and let’s dive in!

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The Basics: Understanding Boat Sizes and Types

Before venturing into solo boat operations, it’s crucial to understand the various types of boats and their sizes. Not all boats are created equal, and the size and type of the boat play significant roles in determining its operational complexity. Whether it’s a motorboat, sailboat, or yacht, each vessel class brings its unique challenges and perks.

• Motorboats: Typically smaller in size and ranging between 10 to 40 feet, motorboats are usually easier to handle. However, larger motor yachts can extend up to 100 feet or more and may require more experience and skill.
• Sailboats: Sailboats demand a certain skill level, as you’ll need to understand wind directions, rigging, and sailing techniques. They vary widely in size, from small dinghies to large cruising yachts.
• Yachts: The term “yacht” often refers to a more luxurious boat, typically longer than 40 feet. Operating a yacht often involves managing advanced onboard systems and requires more comprehensive knowledge and experience.
• Trawlers: Trawlers are typically used for long-distance, leisurely cruising. They range in size, but handling larger trawlers often demands more than one person unless they are set up specifically for solo operations.
• Multihull Boats (Catamarans and Trimarans): These boats offer stability and space. They can range from small and manageable sizes to large, complex vessels requiring experience and knowledge.

Operating Factors: Boat Handling and Complexity

Navigating the vast expanse of water bodies is not merely about turning the steering wheel. It entails a detailed understanding of the boat’s systems, the ability to read weather patterns, and the skill to react swiftly to unexpected situations. 

The size and type of the boat will influence the complexity of these tasks. Larger boats, for instance, often have intricate onboard systems and are more challenging to maneuver. They also require higher maintenance, which can become a demanding task for solo operators. 

Hence, when contemplating operating a boat alone, assessing your ability to handle the boat’s complexity and not just its size is essential. The boat’s handling characteristics are also a crucial factor. Smaller boats can respond quickly to steering inputs, while larger ones require foresight and planning as they don’t change their course or speed as rapidly. 

Maneuvering a large boat in a crowded marina or tight waterways requires a certain skill and experience, as does dealing with the higher inertia and the impact of wind and currents. Some boats, especially modern ones, might have systems to assist with docking and maneuvering. However, relying solely on these systems without understanding boat handling principles can lead to problems. 

Your level of comfort with the boat’s handling and complexity should be a primary determinant of the largest boat you can operate alone.

Mastering the Elements: Weather and Sea Conditions

Boating on open water is a theater of nature’s might, where weather and surface conditions play pivotal roles in your solo boating experience. Mastering these elements involves understanding and predicting weather patterns, deciphering the sea’s behavior, and maneuvering your boat under various conditions. A larger boat might offer more stability in rough seas but could also pose greater challenges in terms of handling and maneuverability.

• Understanding Weather Patterns: A sound knowledge of meteorology helps predict weather conditions, understand wind directions, and identify warning signs of a storm. Weather can drastically affect your boat’s handling, and it is vital for solo operators to know how to adapt.
• Sea Conditions: These can vary greatly from calm, flat water to rough, turbulent waves. Larger boats may handle heavy seas better than smaller ones, but they also require more skill and strength to control.
• Seasonal Changes: Seasons can dramatically affect sea and weather conditions. Understanding how different times of the year can change the boating environment is crucial, especially for long-term solo voyages.
• Tides and Currents: Understanding tides and currents is essential for navigating safely and efficiently. These can impact the speed and course of your boat, especially in coastal areas.
• Night Time Operations: Operating a boat solo at night or in foggy conditions demands extra caution. Visibility is reduced, and navigation can become challenging, especially in unfamiliar waters.

Leveraging Technology: Automation and Modern Boat Features

As we sail into the future, technological advancements redefine the limitations and possibilities for solo boat operators. With developments in automation and an array of modern boat features, handling a larger vessel alone is becoming more feasible. 

These innovations enhance safety and efficiency and provide a platform that extends the operator’s capabilities, enabling them to navigate larger boats and face challenging sea conditions with greater confidence.

Automation systems have revolutionized the boating experience. From autopilots that maintain a set course to advanced systems capable of making minor adjustments based on wind and sea conditions, automation reduces the manual effort required, making longer journeys more manageable for solo operators. 

Coupled with digital navigation aids such as GPS and radar, which provide valuable information regarding location, obstacles, and weather conditions, boating has become safer and more precise. However, while technology greatly aids in managing a large vessel, it’s crucial to remember that it complements, not replaces, the essential skills of seamanship. 

Balancing technological reliance and traditional navigational skills ensures an optimal solo boating experience.

Experience and Training: How Skill Influences Boat Size

When determining the largest boat you can operate solo, your skill level and experience are among the most significant considerations. Mastering the art of boating is not an overnight process; it’s a progressive journey that involves learning the fundamentals, developing operational skills, and gaining real-world experience. 

Each additional foot of boat length generally means increased handling, navigation, and maintenance complexity. From docking maneuvers in crowded marinas to making critical decisions under challenging sea conditions, the level of experience required escalates with the size of the boat. 

Training programs and certifications offer structured learning paths, but nothing replaces the wisdom gained from hours spent on the water, facing diverse situations. As such, your capacity to handle a large boat solo is as much a testament to your skills and experience as it indicates the boat’s physical dimensions.

Safety Considerations: Ensuring a Secure Voyage

The allure of operating a large boat solo should never overshadow the paramount importance of safety. A secure voyage is well-prepared and respects the fundamental safety guidelines. Larger boats are generally more stable and safer in rough water but also present unique challenges that demand heightened awareness and precautions.

Preparation is the cornerstone of safety. This includes ensuring your boat is well-maintained and equipped with safety gear like life jackets, flares, fire extinguishers, and a first-aid kit. For larger boats, you may also need to consider additional equipment like life rafts and EPIRBs (Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacons).

Communication is vital, especially when you’re the only person aboard. Modern communication devices, including VHF radios and satellite phones, can help maintain contact with the outside world and call for help if needed.

Understanding and respecting weather and sea conditions is critical. Larger boats can handle heavier seas, but adverse weather poses significant risks. Regularly checking weather forecasts and understanding how to interpret them is crucial.

Even with all the preparations, unexpected situations can arise. The ability to stay calm, think clearly, and act decisively is often the key to navigating these challenges. Proper training and real-world experience greatly enhance your ability to handle emergencies and make safe decisions.

Lastly, a fundamental aspect of solo boating safety is self-care. Operating a large boat alone can be physically and mentally demanding, and neglecting your well-being can lead to fatigue, impairing your ability to operate the boat safely.

Bryan is a Las Vegas resident who loves spending his free time out on the water. Boating on Lake Mohave or Lake Havasu is his favorite way to unwind and escape the hustle and bustle of the city. More about Bryan.

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Do You Need A Crew For Yachts? Helpful Tips (With 6 Examples)

Whether or not you need a crew for a yacht depends on several factors.

In this article, we will help you figure out exactly what you need.

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Here’s When You Need a Yacht Crew:

With the appropriate boat licenses, you can typically operate a boat up to 75 feet without a crew. However, most yachts need crew for docking, launching, caring for guests, and watching for danger or other boats. Without a crew, an autopilot feature may be crucial to help with keeping you on course.

A crew can help because someone must always be on watch to look for nearby vessels or other dangerous situations, as well as docking

Here’s everything you need to know about when you will need a yacht crew:

What Exactly do you Need a Yacht Crew for?

Yacht crews do a lot of things to help maintain the boat and keep it running smoothly.

Some of these duties include:

• Launching and docking the boat
• Accounting or managing the operating expenses
• Cooking, bartending, or other types of services for guests
• Engineering and/or regular maintenance for onboard appliances and ship mechanics
• Piloting and driving the boat
• Cleaning the interior and general housekeeping duties
• Supervising guests and other crew members on board

Here’s a list we made with 10 typical tasks performed by the crew on a yacht . It’s a great read if you are considering whether you will need a crew or not!

Depending on your boat and your experience, you might not need all of those duties to be done. For example, superyachts might need a cook, while sportfishing yachts might not (even if they have a grill).

Some boaters prefer to do the piloting and engineering independently, while others want to lounge around and enjoy the weather.

Make sure you analyze your reasoning for having a boat before you hire people you might not need to employ.

Do you consider boating to be a social activity? Or do you prefer to boat alone, where you can enjoy the peace that can only be found on the water?

If you’re in the latter group, you may have pondered over one or more of these questions before:

• Can I pilot this boat on my own?
• Do I need a crew?
• Why do I need a crew?

What is the Biggest Boat I can get Without Having to Hire a Professional Crew?

It really does depend on your experience with a recreational boat and how comfortable you are on your boat.

For avid and experienced boaters, anywhere from a 30’ to a 74’ sportfishing boat is a decent size that they can handle independently.

There are many things to consider when figuring out what boat to buy , especially if you plan on operating the watercraft on your own.

Remember that you’ll probably need help (even if it’s just your family and/or friends) who can help you cast off the lines and tie up when you need to dock.

Also, keep in mind that you’ll need an autopilot if you plan on using a powerboat on your own. Here’s everything you need to know about which yachts have autopilots.

Yes, many people can handle these tasks on their own, but they also have the help of electronic charting and steering, pod drives, and bow thrusters, which can help hold the boat’s position while you casually tie off.

Which Licenses Do I Need to Operate a Yacht Without a Crew?

There are several different licenses you need to know about when we are talking yachts.

Especially if you are bringing guests (if they are paying for the trip).

For more information, here is everything you need to know about boat license types .

Does Every Motor Yacht Need to Have a Crew?

When it comes to boating, there are many different types of people drawn to this recreational activity.

Some want to race, others fish, while others want to cruise around the harbor while catching some rays. In addition to that, some want to spend that time with friends and family, while some want to enjoy some peace while out on the water.

There is nothing wrong with being a “do-it-yourself” type of boater, whether you’re into sailing yachts or motor yachts. However, there are plenty of reasons why boating with a crew can come in handy.

Safety & Emergency Help:

Having a crew is safer.

It is always safer to go out on the water with other people. In emergencies, when something unexpected happens, or even if you need a hand with something, it is safer to have other passengers and crew members there for you to count on.

When you are out on the water with a limited crew or yourself, you have to be extra careful since there isn’t anyone there who can rescue you or help you get out of a tough situation.

Wearing a life jacket regularly all by yourself can get cumbersome, after all.

Because of that, short-handed boatmen often use the “Lifesling,” which is a horseshoe-shaped collar secured to a victim to help get them back on board.

Some offshore sailors tow a long line behind the vessel for a crewmember to grab if they fall overboard.

Guests & Cleanup Help:

If your yacht is commercial or hosts guests, operating it is like owning a small hotel.

Crews are a  must when you have guests onboard, as you will not be able to pilot the yacht, dock, launch, clean, cook, serve, and entertain guests.

Furthermore, you shouldn’t have to!

Guest experiences are made better when you have all hands on deck to help keep things running smoothly and safely. Taking on that burden alone is not necessary.

Family Yacht or Single Captain:

Some families like to own their own yacht and don’t care about crews or getting help out on the water.

Families of four or five could potentially crew the yacht themselves!

Therefore, if your ship is for personal and private use and you don’t want to hire a crew, make sure you bring enough people with you to help you take care of the ship’s requirements.

If you are a single sailor, however, and you captain, dock, launch, and maintain the ship yourself, make sure that you have open radio communications if you ever need help and have to call the coast guard.

What Do I Need to Own and Sail a Yacht?

If you choose to set sail on your own, it is important to have the right disaster and spare equipment on board in case of emergency.

A common checklist of everything you need to do, from trailering to getting underway to cleaning the boat, can be handy in emergencies.

After all, it can be difficult to think of what to do when your adrenaline is through the roof.

Let’s go over some basic emergency equipment for your boat as well as some handy spare parts you should keep close at hand:

• PFD’s, horn, fire extinguisher, and other appropriate safety equipment
• Floatation devices and emergency raft
• VHF radio, a cell phone, or a satellite phone
• A pair of binoculars
• Maps and charts
• Two to four fenders
• Some extra dock and anchor lines
• An extra plug for your hull drain
• An extra set of keys
• A spare bearing set and tire for your trailer
• Some engine oil (just in case)
• A basic tool kit (look and make sure that the tools match the hardware on your boat)
• A couple of flashlights
• Duct tape (which will always come in handy)
• Brush for your boat
• A trailer coupler lock
• Your boat cover
• Some sunscreen and a hat (and other skin protection)
• Spare alternator belt
• Spark plugs
• An extra set of bearing and hubs
• Extra prop and hardware
• Another water pump kit
• Spare flags for emergencies

What Training do Crewmembers need to Operate a Big Yacht?

If you decide to get a crew, each member of your crew must have different qualifications, based on their role on the boat.

For professional crew members, two of the bigger training certificates are:

• STCW Basic Safety Training – This should be required of your entire crew to work on a charter yacht or a commercial yacht. It is not required for private boats, but it is highly desirable and wouldn’t hurt to have on hand.
• ENG1 Seafarer Medical Certificate – This is a medical examination required to prove whether or not you are fit for working on the water. An MCA-approved doctor must issue this.

Each Crewmember Must Have the Following (by job description):

• MCA Efficient Deckhand training (EDH)
• Deck/Yacht training
• VHF radio training
• RYA Radar training and the RYA competent crew training
• MCA Proficiency in designated security duties (PDSD)
• RYA Powerboat (at least level 2) and the RYA Tender Operator
• General GRP and carpentry repairs
• An interior crew-training course or courses, such as the PYA GUEST Program
• STCW Proficiency (Medical First Aid) and the STCW Proficiency in Survival Craft and Rescue Boats
• VHF Radio Short Range Certificate (GMDSS/DSC)
• RYA Powerboat (at least level 2)
• PWC Personal Watercraft Proficiency
• MCA Proficiency in Designated Security Duties (PDSD) and the MCA Human Element, Leadership and Management (HELM) at Operational Level
• Deck / Yacht Rating
• AEC Approved Engine Course
• MEOL Marine Engine Operator License
• Marine Diesel Training and Experience
• Auxiliary Equipment & Basic Ship Construction
• MCA Sea Survival for Yachtsman
• Advanced Fire Fighting
• STCW Proficiency in Medical First Aid
• Chief Engineer Statutory & Operational Requirement
• Applied Marine Engineering

Final Thoughts:

Having a crew aboard your vessel will help you ensure that you have a fun, leisurely cruise or voyage.

An experienced crew can help ease your tensions and worries. A crew can help alleviate the chaos and energy that might come with frantically doing things on your own.

There are many yachts out on the water, which is operated “short-handed.”

This means that it is being operated on less than the usual number of crew members that would typically be used.

In the past, it was common practice that 70-foot boats had dedicated captains and crew members (at least one). These days, 80-foot boats are being crewed by husband-wife teams.

If you choose to go this route, make sure to:

• Choose the right yacht for you (the right size and type)
• Outfit the yacht for extra amenities, balanced with simplicity (don’t make things overcomplicated)
• Prep yourselves by talking through scenarios beforehand, planning, and taking your time.
• Consider anchoring via remote controller for the power windlass.
• Have the appropriate emergency gear on board.

Being a short-handed boater can seem intimidating, but it can be a wonderful adventure as well.

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What’s the Largest Boat One Person Can Operate?

So you're looking for something big, but want to go at it alone. Sailing single-handed (also known as short-handed) is perfectly doable, although not always ideal. As every 28-year old, I want something over 30 feet - but is it actually practical?

So what’s the largest boat one person can operate? Most experienced sailors seem to stay under 35 feet - anything over 50 feet is uncommon. But there really is no upper limit. It depends on skill, experience, and courage. Generally, if you're a reasonably skilled sailor, you'll be capable of sailing these boats alone:

• Without systems: under 28 ft or 8 m
• With systems: under 46 ft or 14 m
• Typically, experienced sailors stay under 35 ft
• Anything over 50 ft or 15m is uncommon

If the manufacturer bothered to include a crew cabin, it's probably a good idea to have a crew.

Length is not really the issue with short-handed cruising. There is no limit, except for your experience and ability. The real questions are: what do you feel comfortable with; and what's the amount of sailcloth you can safely handle?

Another factor is stability - bigger boats tend to be more stable, and can be operated from the cockpit entirely (with the lines running aft and having remote controls). Besides docking, there really isn't an issue, and larger boats might be more easy to handle on your own than smaller boats having the wrong configuration.

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How many hands do you need, why do you want to go big, how much sail can you handle, the downside of sailing a large boat alone, preparing for passages, 3 incredible sailboats you can sail solo, related questions.

Apart from the question of whether it's technically possible to sail a boat solo, let's also check whether it's comfortable. Because you're probably not buying a boat to prove anything to anyone (or are you?), but to have a great experience. The following boat lengths are comfortable to sail ...

• single-handed: under 35 feet
• double-handed: 35 - 50 feet
• crew: 50 feet and up

So why is it more comfortable to sail anything over 35 feet double-handed?

Sailing is the easy part - everything else gets more difficult with added length. The biggest limiting factor is how you're planning to dock. Get this right and you've lost your biggest bottleneck. Some marinas offer assisted docking to facilitate single-handed sailing, which can be of great help.

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Docking aside, it helps to have someone to handle the lines while you helm the boat.

Another important factor is troubleshooting any (technical) problems when you're on your own. There should be enough people on board to address any problems that come up. If you're not comfortable with possibly having to deal with change in weather, emergency reefing, technical issues, and so on, you should probably consider getting your significant other, or a friend along.

Check what the specific boat is built for. Purpose-built solo racers can be very large (120 ft) and are easy to maneuver single-handed (which isn't to say they're all of a sudden easy to dock - anything big just isn't).

If it isn't about length ...

... then what's it about? I think more important then length is:

• boat layout
• systems and remote control availability - check out the full list of systems below
• home berth conditions - if these are good (upwind, assisted docking, protected water) docking will be way easier

Think in displacement instead of length

Another way to go at it is by thinking in displacement instead of length. The amount of crew you need for the amount of displacement:

• 12 - 30 tonnes: one experienced boat hand or two inexperienced ones
• 30 tonnes and up: an experienced crew

Also, consider why you'd want to go big. I would encourage you to really think this through. It's perfectly possible to sail anything over 50 feet solo, but there's a point at which I start to wonder why. This is around the 42' mark. It simply becomes more uncomfortable quickly. So if you don't have any good reason to get a bigger boat besides ego, don't do it - you will probably come to regret it.

On the other end, if you do have a solid reason for needing more length, then please, go for it. Consult yourself to get to the bottom of it. Some legit reasons, I believe, are:

• You're planning to live on the boat
• You're doing multi-day trips and need a place to sleep
• You really like to polish endless amounts of hull surface

One sailor can typically manage about 300 - 400 sq ft. of sail. Anything up to and it becomes unmanageable quickly, especially if the weather turns. Following this rule, you can increase your hull length a bit if you choose a boat with more and smaller sails. So you can sail a somewhat larger yawl or ketch.

Things that become difficult on your own:

You can do lots on your own, especially if you have some automation systems in place. But there are some jobs you just can't do without a helping hand.

• getting in and out of the slip
• docking - catching dock lines
• standing watch / sleeping

Systems you probably want to consider:

If you're going to sail something over 35' alone you should definitely consider the following systems:

• autopilot for steering
• lines running aft (running to cockpit)
• electric windlass
• roller furling
• hydraulic bow/stern thrusters with remote

Skills you want to develop and get right:

• Docking: dock, dock again, dock some more. Practice until you can effortlessly maneuver in tight spaces while allowing yourself the time to walk up and down the entire hull length
• Get the steering configuration right
• Get the right cockpit layout

A great example of how to successfully sail solo:

Don't underestimate the power of the wind and tide. The forces you need to deal with are extreme. The longer the boat, the larger the grasp of the wind on your sails becomes. Longer boats are heavier as well, which is why they gain more momentum once they're set in motion. Stopping a 50-footer is difficult - not being able to do so very risky. A larger hull means the tide can get a better hold of you.

Single-handed sailing means that you're solely responsible to manage all of these forces. Also, if something breaks, you're on your own. It can get quite stressful at times. If you don't mind this kind of challenge, and you're in good physical shape, there's no reason to stop dreaming at a certain hull length. Just be aware of what you're signing up for.

Another thing to consider is that larger boats take longer to prepare to make way. You can get a small 26-footer up and running in half an hour, but a 46-footer can just as easily take you up to a week. The time you'll need to spend on maintenance will also increase exponentially.

We all know that anything that takes that too much effort will happen less often. If you want to get out there a lot, get something that's quick to set up.

With any passage, I believe it's best to have at least one other capable sailor on board. This way you have your backup, just in case anything happens; and you greatly reduce any possible (serious) risks.

If you need to go solo because you don't have any (sailing) friends or companions, I highly encourage you to find another (solo) boat and stay within the vicinity and stay in touch throughout. Having some form of backup is in my mind important with these kinds of prolonged trips.

• Phocea - 246 ft or 75 m
• Trimaran Spindrift 2 (Banque Populaire V) - 130 ft or 40 m
• Macif - 100 ft or 30 m

What’s the largest yacht for couples?

With the two of you, the sky is the limit. If you're planning on both learning all sailing skills, that is. With two fully capable sailors on board, there isn't any reason to limit yourself, other than what you're capable of handling based on your experience.

However, if one of you is doing all the work, I would regard it as having one sailor and one pair of helping hands on board. I'd stay in the 35 - 50 ft range at most.

What size boat requires a captain's license?

In the US there isn't a required license based on length, though it's smart to get your license. It allows you to take along paying passengers, which is a great way to earn some extra money and get the extra hands you need on board.

The captain's license consists of a comprehensive exam, helping you to understand coastal navigation, deck knowledge, and rules and regulations. It's a good way to increase your theoretical knowledge, increasing safety on every vessel you set foot on.

A license will cost you between $500 - $800 and lasts for five years. Think you can earn it back by taking some folk along for the weekend?

Also, if you own a large boat (say 50 ft and up) your insurance company may require you to get a license or hire a licensed captain.

How much does it cost to hire a boat captain?

On average, a boat captain cost about $1,000 per year per foot. If you're just hiring for the week, the price is more in the $300 - $400 ballpark. On average, a week trip will cost you:

Fernando Affonso

Hi, congratulations for your post. It was very clarifying. Rgds

Shawn, Your post and information was extremely helpful Thanks very much! Regards, Casey Milton Ontario Canada

Yes, you can sail 75 meter long Phocea single handed. Sailing it is the easy part. But can you enter (moor or dock her) or leave harbour with her single handed? That is the question.

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Dear sir we are staying far drom sea and in life once saw sea but me and my husband wanr to sail in sea please gyide us how to start and which boat is suitabke fir us for sailing and living in budget , we are from India

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Excellent. Well thought out and clear, with good examples. Thank you!

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Princess X95 Superfly: The making of a very modern superyacht

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With exclusive access to the designers and naval architects behind the X Class range, MBY reveals what it takes to get from drawing board to dipping the hull...

At the Düsseldorf Boat Show in 2018, MBY editor Hugo and I were ushered to a secret room at the back of the Princess Yachts stand. Our mobile phones and notepads were taken from us before being sealed away inside a code-protected locker and we were led through to a dimly lit room occupied by little more than a glass display case in its centre.

Here, in a private space reserved for the eyes of the press and VIP customers, was a scale model of the X95 Superfly, an entirely new type of Princess and a glimpse into a bold future that looked to push the boundaries of what is achievable in a 30-metre yacht. What does it take to get from that point to the moment where the yacht touches water for the first time, though?

It starts with an idea and a challenge from Princess Yachts’ CEO Anthony Sheriff to his design team: “What’s new”? The former boss of McLaren cars wants to begin a new project with the focus on how it will offer something fresh and different, not only in comparison to competitors but to existing models in the Princess range.

The swooping lines down the aft quarters mirror other models in the Princess range

The shipyard already has an established and well-received line-up of semi-custom yachts in its stable in the form of the M Class range so the X Class brief was to offer superior internal volume on a similar waterline length with the emphasis on comfortable and efficient long-distance cruising.

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“It’s always exciting starting a new project,” says Andy Lawrence, Princess’s director of design. “The main challenge of this yacht was its proportion. At 95ft long, to be able to get the main saloon and a huge flybridge with an air-conditioned sky lounge encased on top is a challenging proportion to work with.

“From quite an early stage we realised we had the chance to do a new layout that we haven’t looked at before. The proportions meant we had to think again when we penned first profiles, it needed to be something completely different. “There is a design triangle that’s going on with our in-house design team, Olesinski, and we’ve recently introduced Pininfarina into that mix.”

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Once the idea for the X95 has been established a brief is sent to Princess’s long standing design partners Olesinski Design in Cowes and Pininfarina in Turin where the teams get to work generating a raft of different concepts that will ultimately be whittled down and presented back to Princess.

In total, Olesinski estimates that over 12,000 of their man-hours went into this project over a three-year period. “From our office alone we created more than 20 different design proposals,” explains Olesinki’s head of design Jonathan Cantrell. “The X95 presented such a unique opportunity and Princess wan’t entirely sure of exactly where it wanted to go with the project so there were lots of different ideas on the table.”

Cantrell joined Olesinksi 13 years ago and has designed 15 Princesses in that time from small V Class boats right up to the 40-metre yacht. Why is the X95 so different to anything he and the team have designed for Princess previously? “This is the first true tri-deck that we’ve been involved with and it’s definitely groundbreaking for Princess,” he says. “Its internal volume sets it apart, this has always been a big thing where every millimeter counts but the X95 takes this to the extreme.”

Olesinksi’s sketches show the evolution of the glazing around the forward end of the main deck

Adding to the complexity of the job was the consideration that the Princess X95 would be platform sharing with the Y95, a more traditional alternative to the X Class created using the same hull and lower deck but with a totally different main deck and more traditional flybridge configuration up top.

“This clearly adds constraints,” Cantrell explains. “We didn’t have the flexibility in the backbone of the yacht that we would usually have but the existence of the more traditional Y95 allowed us to be even more bold with the X95 in not having to adhere to the usual Princess look. “It’s a very different proposition to your traditional Princess so it’s a case of finding a new look that still has the essence of the flowing lines that we developed over the last 14 years.”

Peerless proportions

As well as presenting a styling challenge, the Princess X95’s height combined with a relatively short waterline length lead Olesinksi’s head of naval architecture Gerard Grandcourt to employ new techniques in drawing the yacht’s wave-piercing hull.

Poring over the X95 sketches at the Olesinski Design office

“We needed to make sure that we had the waterline beam to support the height and weight because we knew it was going to be a challenge,” he explains. “We went to Ocean Basin at Haslar and built a free-running scale model of the hull to test manoeuvrability and ensure it was safe. It’s the first time we’ve done tank testing with a model that isn’t tethered; free-running models are usually in the realms of superyachts and commercial shipping.”

The X95’s hull shape is significantly different to the M Class range, a result of the drive for efficiency in Princess’s brief. “We wanted to push the boundaries with this hull and keep an open mind,” Grandcourt explains. “We took a look at a variety of different hull forms and used our in-house computational fluid dynamics (CFD) software along with artificial intelligence and machine learning to help run whole sets of hull tests with different parameters but we are always focused on the sea-keeping benefits.”

The results speak for themselves. Compare the Princess X95 with the yard’s own 30 Metre, whose dimensions are almost identical, and you find that with 1,400hp less in total the X95 will achieve the same top speed as the 30 Metre and likely be a whisker faster at the top end. This is purely down to the efficiency of the hull shape and, as a result, the X95’s engines are using 20% less power at 16 knots.

With 1,400hp less, the X95 will achieve the same top speed as the 30 Metre due to the efficiency of the hull shape

“Sixteen knots is a good cruise speed for her but she is very comfortable at full speed where we have seen 23.5 knots with a 90% fuel load,” Grandcourt adds.

Out of the water you notice joins along the forepeak, piercing section of the hull and transom, which hint at a cunning way to duck beneath the 78ft 7in (24m) threshold and avoid a plethora of rigorous regulations regarding both construction and the running of the yacht. These bolt-ons allow the length overall to stretch to 95ft 5in (29.1m) but ensure that the waterline length of the hull sneaks just below the regulatory margin at 78ft 6in (23.95m).

The X95 demonstrates a significant increase in the amount of deck layouts available in comparison to the 30 Metre. This is driven by customers’ desire to have more control over the layout of their yacht but it’s not easy for a production builder to offer bespoke designs on a model that it would hope to build between six to nine units of per year.

Incorporating the sky lounge was one of the major challenges for the design team

The 30 Metre offers a simple choice between three or four cabins on the lower deck but the X95 has the flexibility of three different layout options on all three decks. The team has tried to account for the requests they predict most customers will ask for but even outside of these standard configurations Princess is willing to accommodate more detailed customisation.

Hull number one, for example, splits the lower deck VIP between a cabin and a gym as opposed to the standard full-beam double, has bespoke furniture in the saloon and master suite and a projector that drops down from the overhang on the flybridge so that the owner and his guests can watch films alfresco.

“We started from scratch with the interior and set a completely new styling language with this yacht,” says Jonny Warden, principal designer at Princess. “What we tried to do was to wrap the furniture into the geometry of the yacht to create a fluid movement of how you would transition through it.”

The glazed area is enormous – unprecedented in comparison to anything Princess has done before

Perfect flow

Wandering around the soon-to-be delivered Hull No 1 at Princess’s South Yard facility, the effect is impressive with gently swooped furniture and bulkheads leading you through an interior that will be bathed in natural light. The glazed area is enormous – unprecedented in anything Princess has done before.

The connection between the deck levels is striking and it’s when you take the internal staircase, just aft of the galley, to the upper deck that the benefits of a true tri-deck design are most obvious. That word “flow” comes to mind again.

Even with rain pounding off the roof of the South Yard shed, I can picture drifting around this deck, reclining on one of the sun loungers, taking a seat at the circular dining table, dropping into the optional foredeck hot tub or retiring to the air-conditioned sky lounge to cool off and watch the sport. The way these three different areas on the same deck connect to each other seamlessly is the essence of what makes this design so clever.

“We couldn’t have foreseen from the outset what this would have looked like at the end,” adds Grandcourt. “That’s the beauty of the design process, you begin with a blank sheet of paper and end up with something that is remarkable, that no one in the world has seen before – a brand new concept.” All that’s left to do now is drive it. Watch this space…

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Realistically what is the largest sail boat two people can handle in most weather conditions. I figure I have about 10 years before I have to stop. Thinking of saleing the condo and dock space and buying a larger sail boat and doing the pacific. Will hire a young couple to help the first year while learning the likes and dislikes of the boat. It will also give me time to deside what I can't live with and need to change. Have not done much real bad weather sailing using my Chris-Craf ketch.  

That is sort of a loaded question. Two people of what skill level? Of what age? What is their mobility (regardless of age)? My wife and I handle our boat well, its 47 ft, and while I've taken it out solo (well I had crew but they didn't know how to sail but helped me dock) I've been doing it for a long time.  

Yeas, whats your age, Warren? And while Im asking rude questions, wifes age, flexibitly, fitness etc? The modern 60 footers are pretty easy for a couple to run for couples in their 60s. 50 footers are even easier. they give great living space, wonderful deck space. A 45 foot catamaran would be huge, and easy for 2 to sail. My next boat, given some cash (or a stock market that actually goes up 😰) would be a 42 or 45 foot catamaran. The best currently for me at Leopards due to their innovative front door an extra living area on top of the hard top next to the helm. Its really a money thing more than a size thing. So, to realllllly be rude: US$1 million then go a great, new, fully optioned 45 foot catamaran or 50 foot sloop Less than US$1m get what you can afford. Over $2 million youre getting into silly money. A floating jacuzzi with crew to rub in the sunscreen.. Mark  

It's all in the person(s). I know delivery skippers who single hand up to 65'. I know couples who shouldn't be allowed on a Catalina 22.  

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My sense is that in benign conditions sailing a large sailboat with motorized winches etc. and a good AP is not much of a problem. maneuvering in close quarters... docking in and out a slip may be a challenge with a large boat. You need to determine how large a boat you need. Note that the interior plans of sloops to the low 40s are all the same. My decades of experience is with the Contest36s which has a large interior, lots of storage and a very large cockpit... plus a rather flush deck. I can recommend this boat for coastal and offshore, single handed, sailed by two or with up to 6 for passages. The only reason for me to have a larger boat would be a longer waterline and faster passages. Aside from that this 36s is more than enough boat. And more boat is more maintenance... usually more expensive parts, sails and so on.  

Hello, Just some comments from me. These are all IMO. I think you're going about this the wrong way. Who cares how big a boat 2 people can handle? How big a boat do you (and your +1) WANT? Personally I can't imagine two people NEEDING anything over 50' but some need more than others'. For me PERSONALLY, if I can't manage the sails (bending on, removing, carrying on / off the boat) then the boat is too big. I can carry the main, genoa, and big code 0 on my 40' Jeanneau. I was not able to carry the heavy #1 on the J44 I sailed on. I could probably manage most 42' boats, so I would guess that is my limit.. Some background on me; 58 years old, been sailing for about 20 years. I believe I am fit, strong, coordinated and athletic. I supposed I may change my mind regarding sail management in 10 years. My Jeanneau has powered winches for the main halyard and main sheets. I also have a bow thruster, and a sail drive with little to no prop walk and good performance in reverse. So I can get into and out slips or docks in most weather conditions. Personally, without the bow thruster it would be a LOT harder to dock the boat. I know a number of people who have good sized boats (36-42') who won't leave the slip if there is 15 kts of wind on the beam. It makes getting back into the slip too difficult. Lastly - you asked about 2 people handling the boat. Does that mean only 2 people aboard, or could there be 6 people aboard, but only two who can sail? For just two people you don't need THAT large a boat. If you plan on having 6 people aboard for an extended time then I understand why you might want a 50' boat. Good luck. Barry  

When I began sailing we had a rule of thumb; a single person expecting to take crew or a couple shouldn't buy a boat bigger than one could sail comfortably alone. In those days that was a boat around 40 feet long. These days, with all the roller furling sails available, that can be greatly increased to at least 55'. I sailed our 53' Pearson for a year alone, until I met my wife to be. I have captained boats that were in the 80 to 85 foot range with one crew (experienced), most often my lady, with no stress at all. Not counting the financial aspect of size, I think it greatly depends on the skill of the sailors and their ability to handle things should something disable a key bit of gear on the boat. Count on having to sail to anchor numerous times in the West Indies, and to a dock several times, if you are sailing quite a bit.  

Looking at 65 good health right now. No wife, just a female friend who got me into sailing. Money should not be a problem as condo and deeded dock are free and clear. I like my Chris-Craf ketch but thought that a larger boat would be easier on the body. The first year would have a couple that knows really how to sail so I can learn. Right now I am pressing 210 lb 3 days a week in the gym.  

You don't need strength to sail. You need smarts. You don't have to lug heavy sails around... use a cart (and halyard). You want to learn how to (single) hand(le) your boat. If you need crew... you are a prisoner to the crew. You don't need a slip. Get a mooring and use a dink or a launch svs. Learn to anchor. Use all chain and an electric windlass w/ foot switches. Absolutely mission critical is a good autopilot that you can "steer with". Comfort is very important. Additional people on board are useful for watch keeping.  

I have lived on boats from 58'-75'-103'-and now a Nordhavn N80. The N80 is a major crossing boat with a 4000 range but it is also a great live abord with upper and lower saloons, main floor master and an elevator which is a God send in high seas (10'-15' ft). We handle the boat easily with 2 people, If we go for 5 days non-stop (Like Ocean Reef to Nantucket) we will talk a third crew to help with overnight watches Scott Burke M/Y JessConn  

What BarryL said. Instead of asking "what is the largest boat we can handle?" you should be asking "what is the smallest boat that will serve all of our needs?"  

As others have suggested, the question probably should be "What is the smallest boat that suits our needs?" The question is "what is the largest boat that two people can handle? " is somewhat of a "how long is a piece of string?" question. After all, Alain Colas single-handed the 236 foot CLUB MEDITERRANEE across the Atlantic in the 1976 Ostar Trans-Atlantic race in the days before boat automation was as advanced is it is today. Recently, Jean Le Cam, a 62 year old French sailor raced a 60 foot boat non-stop around the world and came in fourth in an older design to boot. But also when it comes to how big a boat a couple can handle. the size of the boat should be measured in displacement and not length, for while length does play a bit of a role, displacement more than anything else controls the forces involved in handling a boat, the interior volume of the boat, and the carrying excess capacity of the boat., When I started sailing there was a rule of thumb that suggest that a cruising boat should have a displacement of 2 1/2 to 5 long tons per person (5600 to 11,000 lbs per person) Of course, that was before modern multi-speed winches, high modulus sail cloth and lines, low friction block and many of the other niceties we have gotten used to in the 60 years since I started sailing. That rule of thumb also does not account for the modern sailor's desire to have all of the comforts of home. These days, I would probably suggest that a more reasonable range is closer to 10,000 to 15,000 lbs. per person, but with come caveats. This is where personal preference, physical fitness, and experience level comes in. As boats start to approach the upper limits of that range, it becomes increasing difficult to manage the boat without more complex a systems. Up to about 25,000 lbs displacement, the boat can be managed with conventional geared winches, but even as that limit is approached, it requires someone in really good condition to grind in a genoa or haul up a mainsail on a boat that size with conventional winches. If you don't want to add stored powered winches and sail handling gear, then the next move is to add 'coffee grinder' type winches which allows a tremendously more effective means of handling the line loads. With size everything gets more expensive and complex and more dangerous to operate. For most cruising couples, once a boat gets above 24,000 lbs the tendency is add powered winches, and then hydraulic vangs, and backstays. These come with a big price tag and a major drop in reliability. Some folks also switch to in-mast furling systems as well, which again is a big ticket item that comes with a drop in reliability. Each of these make it easier to manage a bigger boat with less physical strength. Similarly, over perhaps 15,000 lbs, a boat is too big to easily manhandle when docking. As displacement increases over that t requires more skill to come into a dock or leave a dock short-handed and without injuring the crew members or the boat, Bow thrusters, and rotating sail drives, or a multi-hull's twin engines help enormously in close proximity maneuvers. But again at the price of complexity. (That said the dual engines on a multi-hull do provide redundancy that a single engine boat lacks) . If this was me, in my mind, I would never want to handle anything bigger than perhaps 45 feet, and that assumes that both members of the couple are extremely physically fit. I bought my 10,500 lb. 38 foot planning to single- or double hand her to Europe At the time, that seemed like an ideal size for a couple. I was concerned that as a boat got bigger it would get deeper and that would begin restrict my cruising options and require stored energy. I was friends with couple who sailed a 63 footer around the world, and, yes there were times and places where that length became a problem, but they dis it. .But in the end, as at the beginning, it comes down to your capabilities and preferences If you are willing to put in the hard work to get into good physical condition and learn to be a really good sailor, and have a lot of money to throw at this, then the sky is almost the limit, But otherwise, as others have said, look at a bunch of boats and mentally try them on for size., You might find that you don't need or want that XXL and might do much better with a medium. We are here to listen as you go through that process and kick in more ideas. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. We look forward to hearing about your journey. Jeff  

Jeff_H said: As others have suggested, the question probably should be "What is the smallest boat that suits our needs?" The question is "what is the largest boat that two people can handle? " is somewhat of a "how long is a piece of string?" question. After all, Alain Colas single-handed the 236 foot CLUB MEDITERRANEE across the Atlantic in the 1976 Ostar Trans-Atlantic race in the days before boat automation was as advanced is it is today. Recently, Jean Le Cam, a 62 year old French sailor raced a 60 foot boat non-stop around the world and came in fourth in an older design to boot. But also when it comes to how big a boat a couple can handle. the size of the boat should be measured in displacement and not length, for while length does play a bit of a role, displacement more than anything else controls the forces involved in handling a boat, the interior volume of the boat, and the carrying excess capacity of the boat., When I started sailing there was a rule of thumb that suggest that a cruising boat should have a displacement of 2 1/2 to 5 long tons per person (5600 to 11,000 lbs per person) Of course, that was before modern multi-speed winches, high modulus sail cloth and lines, low friction block and many of the other niceties we have gotten used to in the 60 years since I started sailing. That rule of thumb also does not account for the modern sailor's desire to have all of the comforts of home. These days, I would probably suggest that a more reasonable range is closer to 10,000 to 15,000 lbs. per person, but with come caveats. This is where personal preference, physical fitness, and experience level comes in. As boats start to approach the upper limits of that range, it becomes increasing difficult to manage the boat without more complex a systems. Up to about 25,000 lbs displacement, the boat can be managed with conventional geared winches, but even as that limit is approached, it requires someone in really good condition to grind in a genoa or haul up a mainsail on a boat that size with conventional winches. If you don't want to add stored powered winches and sail handling gear, then the next move is to add 'coffee grinder' type winches which allows a tremendously more effective means of handling the line loads. With size everything gets more expensive and complex and more dangerous to operate. For most cruising couples, once a boat gets above 24,000 lbs the tendency is add powered winches, and then hydraulic vangs, and backstays. These come with a big price tag and a major drop in reliability. Some folks also switch to in-mast furling systems as well, which again is a big ticket item that comes with a drop in reliability. Each of these make it easier to manage a bigger boat with less physical strength. Similarly, over perhaps 15,000 lbs, a boat is too big to easily manhandle when docking. As displacement increases over that t requires more skill to come into a dock or leave a dock short-handed and without injuring the crew members or the boat, Bow thrusters, and rotating sail drives, or a multi-hull's twin engines help enormously in close proximity maneuvers. But again at the price of complexity. (That said the dual engines on a multi-hull do provide redundancy that a single engine boat lacks) . If this was me, in my mind, I would never want to handle anything bigger than perhaps 45 feet, and that assumes that both members of the couple are extremely physically fit. I bought my 10,500 lb. 38 foot planning to single- or double hand her to Europe At the time, that seemed like an ideal size for a couple. I was concerned that as a boat got bigger it would get deeper and that would begin restrict my cruising options and require stored energy. I was friends with couple who sailed a 63 footer around the world, and, yes there were times and places where that length became a problem, but they dis it. .But in the end, as at the beginning, it comes down to your capabilities and preferences If you are willing to put in the hard work to get into good physical condition and learn to be a really good sailor, and have a lot of money to throw at this, then the sky is almost the limit, But otherwise, as others have said, look at a bunch of boats and mentally try them on for size., You might find that you don't need or want that XXL and might do much better with a medium. We are here to listen as you go through that process and kick in more ideas. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. We look forward to hearing about your journey. Jeff Click to expand...

It sounds more like I should stay with my Chris-Craf ketch as it is in the length range that is being given for two people. I can keep the condo and lease it for a year to see if living on the ketch will work full time. My 3 kids think I have gone off the deep end. My lady has her life and money and is up for this also. Will see if the boat and condo makes it through the next few hours/days.  

By "Chris Craft Ketch", I assume that you are referring to the Chris Craft Caribbean.35, which was the second generation version of the Chris Craft 'Sail Yacht 35" and the only Ketch that I remember Chris Craft building., I would respectfully suggest that would make a very poor choice for a trans Pacific passage, These were old school motor sailors that would either require some mix of extremely long passage times or a whole lot of motoring. They lack the storage capacity and tankage for those kinds of passages. While the displacement is generally may fall within an accepted range for a couple to make distance passages, the specifics of the design are not suitable. The minimal ballast ratio carried in a shallow keel, represents a compromised stability. The high drag means that the boat needs to carry more sail area than the low ballast ratio, narrow waterline, and high top hamper will safely permit. Having delivered one of these in not all that bad conditions, the motion comfort, especially in the high raised cockpit, is also ill-suited for offshore passage making, where large roll angles drain crew strength, and diminish the crew's reserve energy to deal with crises. I would suggest that you consider boats that are better suited for longer passage making., You will be way safer and more comfortable in the longt run. Jeff  

MarkofSeaLife said: "What is the smallest boat that suits our needs?" No one NEEDS a sailing boat. Click to expand...

My advice. Step into this slowly. Sailing the oceans is a world of difference from coastal sailing or bay/lake sailing. Fortunately, I found out a long time ago that I have no burning desire to be sailing the open ocean. Been there, done that. I very much prefer and enjoy the interface between the land and water. As a result, my voyaging is very happily limited to an overnight passage from Miami to the Bahamas, or inter-island group Bahamas, or Key West to Dry Tortugas. A trailerable pocket cruiser accommodates my desire to see new places much better than the capacity for ocean voyaging. Two of us cruised and enjoyed the northern Bahamas for a month in an ODay 25. Adequate for the purpose, although we were typically the smallest boat seen. Also, from Key West to Dry Tortugas, and the Northwest Passage in Lake Huron for 2 weeks. But I was so much younger and stronger (and poorer) then. Now I single hand (all day sailing so far) in a Stuart Mariner 19 on Albemarle Sound. I have a tiller clutch and a jib down haul to keep everything manageable from the mast and/or cockpit. The Mariner heaves to very nicely while raising or dropping sail. I can scull with the rudder pretty reasonably for short distances if the motor acts up. The displacement is just enough that my weight placement is not critical, yet light enough to fit on my boat lift or easily trailer to other waters. If there were 2 of us camping aboard for a month at a time, I would probably want a bigger trailerable boat. Total investment in a 2500 sq ft water front house on 1.5 acres, 2 boat lifts, new 19ft center console, and the Mariner was less than $700K (2021 prices). I'll take this lifestyle any day over living aboard. Fred W  

As a 45 year old couple we had a Nautical 56 we lived on for 4 years and which 2 of us would sail south from FL to the Caribbean always heading out ahead of a storm so we would get blown south for at least 4 days. After that we had a Irwin 65 foot ketch with all Hood furling sails and two of us sailed that from Miami each year to and from Antigua with ease. In fact because of its setup this was easier for us to sail than the 56 footer with all in mast electric Hood furling, bow thruster etc. So the set up of the boat greatly affects how many hands you need. But that was 30 years ago. After a 30 year break, now when I’m 77 we’ve just bought our 6th boat, a Beneteau 50. I took it on its first sail for me with a friend from St Martin to Trinidad where it’s currently hauled for the hurricane season. This boat has a furling headsail and lazy jacks on the main with all the lines run back to the cockpit, so more manual than our previous boats but everything controlled from the safety of the cockpit. We had a great sail south in 18-30 knots winds and she was beautiful. So again it’s how the boat is set up which determines how large you can go. Hope that helps. You can email me if you have any further specific questions ( [email protected] ). Cheers. Keith English Here’s our new baby creaming it across the Caribbean in 20-33 knot winds doing 8-10 knots and our 20 tons plus just slicing through the seas.  

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Creaming it on our run South from St Martin to Trinidad, some 15nm east of St Kitts …  

Larger boats are not necessarily more difficult to handle. In fact, sometimes easier than smaller vessels. As a case in point, some dear friends- now in their 80s- continue to double-hand their 94ft steel ketch as they have for decades here in Alaska. [Our 43ft ketch seems like a tender in comparison...] They even wrote a book entitled Cruising a BIG sailboat - shorthanded . It is a worthwhile read given your inquiry... This year they decided to put their boat on the market so they could begin searching for a vessel requiring a bit less upkeep when they reach their 90s... In case this is of interest... Cheers! Bill  

I’m 100% with you Bill. I’m 77 and in May we bought our 6th boat, a Beneteau 50 (previously 15 to 27 to 34 to 56 to 65). The 50’ is easy to handle with all controls run back to the cockpit and an electric winch, has tons of space to relax in and is a dream in a blow. Here we are on a run from St Martin to Trinidad about 25 miles offshore of St Kitts in a 20-32 knot blow creaming it at 8-10 knots in relative comfort as our 20+ tons pushes effortlessly through the seas. So faster, more comfortably and with a lot more space. Two of us in our 70s have no problems sailing her.  

We’ve had racers up to 65 feet. It is harder to dock the larger they get. And it depends on how you rig. But we decided 45 feet isn’t too hard for us to dock without help with lines. It’s very shallow draft with a centerboard so we also have a bow thruster which is important since, without the keel down, maneuvering at a dock gets tricky.  

My husband and I have a 38 foot and a 20 foot. We are in our 60's The 38 foot is actually easier to sail. We could go bigger. The only issue is when the engine has crapped out and we had to sail it down a river a couple of times. Then we need an additional two people for strength. Once we were going down wind and he and I were fine. We must have been a sight the first time because people were jumping up in awe and clapping! I wish we had a photo. My daughter said well our ancestors used to sail here, so we can too. True enough. It was a little nerve wracking because people swim in the narrow channel and some boaters can be fairly clueless, but we made it both times with no calamities. In an emergency more than 2 people are welcome, but the majority of time we are good and could sail a much larger boat.  

Depends on the “two people “ you know, knowledge, age/strength, as we age we get physically weaker, then unable to use the knowledge at times, and one won’t always have a younger stronger crew member to compensate…, imo, a boat between 35 and 40 feet, bigger if you have a budget that includes a crew, Fair winds,  

FWIW...I'm 77, the Admiral 75. We've sailed our 43'monohull thru Asia, spent 5 seasons sailing the Medd, and are now about to start our 7th season here in the Caribb. We do, occasionally, have guests onboard, but mostly it's just the 2 of us. Except for haul-out and resplash we seldom spend time in a marina. And we've had NO problems! Sure, we've hit some dicey wx, had some equipment malfunctions, etc. And there have been times when we've been the..."entertainment for the day" as we try to back our monohull (w/o bow thruster) into a med moor! But with the MS on a in-mast roller furler, the HS on a roller refer, the a SS (seldom used, but avail) on a roller refer, and a Milwaukee right-angle drill with winchbit to assist on the winches-we've had no problems. Age is a relative thing-if it feels good, ...do it; someday we'll quit...but not anytime soon! We've had no problems with our 43 footer.  

I agree with Mark that equipment has gotten progressively more reliable. His alternator anecdote is a perfect example of that phenomena. But, I personally do not agree on the power driven winches are perfectly reliable. They certainly are labor saving and make handling bigger boats much easier and safer. But having personally been aboard three separate boats where power winches from several different manufacturers failed, I do not consider them bullet proof. Granted in the one case it was not the winch itself that failed but a failure of the solenoid for the winch. That was only a 10 year old boat that had mostly only been coastally cruised. In the other cases, it was a failure of the motors, in one case a total failure, and in the other a situation where the prolonged run time of a tack caused a condition that would throw the breaker mid tack causing someone needing to dive below and reconnect it. It was later diagnosed as a problem with the motor and was corrected by replacing the motor. Having hauled up a mainsail and having pulled in a reef on 47 footer without an electric winch, its not something that I would want to do in foul conditions. And while you can hand crank a powered winch, at least on the ones I tried to hand crank, there is a mechanism in the socket that makes it hard to keep the handle in the socket. But I respectfully suggest that this thread illustrates the point I was trying to make when I said. "I think for each individual crew and each passage type and location, there is a 'Goldilocks Zone", where the boat is not so small to make the passage more difficult and dangerous, or too big to be manageable if something breaks." In this discussion, we have SanderO, who cruised his boat extensively, posting pictures of his 36 footer to demonstrate what he considered a comfortable cockpit and interior for distance cruising, we have Mark who has sailed around the world in a 39 footer, we have one member posting essentially the same post three times showing that he felt so strongly in advocating that a 50 foot boat as his absolute minimum, and of course the examples extended all the way up to a couple in their 80's who cruised on a 94 foot ketch. Even if their individual decision on the right size boat might not work for someone else, none of these folks are wrong. They each of made their own best decision, and their decision worked out for each of them, . In other words, the answer to the question that is the title of this thread comes down to somewhere between 'how long is a piece of string?" and " what size boat works for you personally.?" In the end, there is no universally right answer to this question that truly suits everyone equally. In my mind, at best these discussions provide illumination on the various ways that individuals approach answering a question like this one. Jeff  

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