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are used with inboard-mounted Rudders to reduce friction where the Rudder passes through the deck and/or hull. They are commonly produced with a Flanged head.
Rudder Bushings fit over the Rudder under the Rudder Head to reduce wear between the Rudder Head and the Flange Bushing or deck beneath it. They are essentially large precision washers.

Rudder Bushings are used with Keel or Skeg-mounted Rudders to reduce lateral friction where the bottom of the Rudder seats in a Rudder Shoe socket or on a Rudder Shoe Pin.

If you require Rudder Bushings not listed here, we can custom make the ones you need, given sufficient time. For a quote on Custom Rudder Bushings please forward a sketch of the Bushing(s) you require with precise measurements and all boat details.
 
Rudder Bushing Set for actual 2 3/8" (.375") OD Rudder Shaft. 3-Piece Set includes (2) Flange Bushings and (1) Head Bushing. Turned Delrin Flange Bushings are 2.375" ID x 2 5/8" OD and 1 1/4" long below the head, Flange head is 3" OD x 1/4" thick. Flange Bushing Shaft OD has milled flats for better adhesion of caulk. Delrin Head Bushing is 3" OD x 3/16" thick, and fits between the upper bushing and the Rudder Head.

 

Rudder Bushing Set for 2 3/8" OD Rudder Shaft. 3-Piece Set includes (2) Flange Bushings and (1) Head Bushing. Turned Delrin Flange Bushings are 2.350" ID x 2 5/8" OD and 1 1/4" long below the head, Flange head is 3" OD x 1/4" thick. Flange Bushing Shaft OD has milled flats for better adhesion of caulk. Delrin Head Bushing is 3" OD x 3/16" thick, and fits between the upper bushing and the Rudder Head.

 


Rudder Bushing for 2 3/8" OD Rudder Shaft. Turned Delrin Bushing is 2.354" ID x 3" OD x 4" long.

 

Flanged Rudder Bushing for 3 7/16" OD Rudder Shaft. Turned Delrin Flange Bushing is 3.450" ID x 4 1/4" OD and is 2 5/8" long below the head. Flange head is 5 3/8" OD x 3/8" thick. Bushing Shaft OD is scored for better adhesion of caulk.   FY #21279. os-up

 


Rudder Head Bushing for 2" OD Rudder Shaft. Turned Delrin Bushing is 2" ID x 2 7/8" OD x 17/64" thick. Bushing fits on Rudder Shaft below Rudder Head.   

 


Rudder Head Bushing for 2 3/8" OD Rudder Shaft. Turned Delrin Bushing is 3" OD x 2.380" ID x 3/16" thick. Bushing fits on Rudder Shaft below Rudder Head.

 


Rudder Shoe Bushing for 1 5/8" ID Rudder Shaft. Bushing fits over 1 5/16" Pin in Rudder Shoe and inside 1 5/8" ID Rudder Shaft. Turned Delrin Bushing is 1 5/8" OD x 1 5/16" ID and is 1 1/4" long.

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Jefa rudder bearings offer the utmost in feel and durability. Utilizing captive roller bearings in rugged aluminum housings, there is a full range of sizes and styles including self aligning bearings to suit all sizes of sailboats. Sizes are available from 30mm to 260mm for production and custom applications.

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Jefa offers replacement and retrofit bearings for many boats built using bearings that are no longer produced. We have replacement bearings for many U.S. built, and European boats. These include J-Boats, Beneteau, Express, Bavaria, Santa Cruz, Dehler, Olson, Moody, and many more.

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Jefa produces self-aligning bearings for rudder stocks engineered to flex. Self-aligning bearings also eliminate the need for precise alignment during installation. Standard or Non Self-aligning bearings are available at a lower cost and normally have a smaller outside diameter.

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Whenever possible, Jefa uses Engineering plastic below the waterline. This offers a durable bearing while helping to eliminate electrolysis at the waterline and near antifouling paint.

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Jefa has delivered rudder stocks and complete rudder for 1000’s boats. Rudder stocks are available machined from Stainless Steel, or aluminum alloy. Rudders are laminated in female molds and filled with high density foam. Complete rudders are built to OEM specification or as replacement rudders for existing boats by Jefa in purpose built production facility allowing us to deliver the highest quality rudders to a competitive.

Here are common questions we receive about our Jefa Rudder Bearings. If you can't find an answer to your question here please feel free to contact us by using the contact form below.

1. Why do you use plastics on your bearings?

Jefa uses engineering plastic on bearings below the waterline as it helps to eliminate electrolysis at the waterline and near antifouling paint.

2. Do I need a roller cage with a Jefa rudder bearing?

No, Jefa rudder bearings are produced at a very high precision. The machined rollers are at such a close tolerance that they provide a smooth operation while under load. The close tolerance allows Jefa to eliminate the roller cage needed with sloppy bearings and keep the design simple for long term reliability.

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Vesconite is ideal for many marine applications. First tested as a stern tube bearing in 1977, it is suited to both dry and immersed applications – in fact water is an excellent coolant and lubricant.

Vesconite is extensively used for rudder and stern tube bearings. Vesconite’s internal lubricants make it eminently suited to upper rudder bearing applications where there are long periods between greasing or no greasing at all, or where water lubrication cannot be ensured when operating with light ballasts.

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If you want the short version: What sort of loads can I expect (or a source for equations) for a 33'' 7500 lb. displacement racing sloop with a 4.5 ft deep x 2 ft long spade rudder. What tensile strength bushing material should be accepted as a minimum? The long version: I dropped my rudder and removed the old bushings, which I believe to be some sort of nylon after a quick burn test. Too much play in the rudder stock (which is aluminum) and such, the whole post was banging around in waves. I am planning on doing the epoxy/graphite solution on dan pfeiffer''s P26 page (http://dan.pfeiffer.net/p26/howto.htm) to create new smooth bearing surfaces on the rudder shaft. So, I need to come up with a material I can have machined into new bushings. Lower bushing was made up of two 1" high pieces and 3 1.5" high pieces, all of about 2.7" ID and 3.3" OD. Upper bushing looks like a mushroom cap on which the aluminum stock-to-tiller set block rides. The hole through the mushroom cap is about 1.5" ID, 2.5" OD, and the cap diameter is about 4". Some criteria I would like from this material: Low cost - under $100/ft; Low coefficient of friction, high tensile strength, no water absorption, weather resistant, UV resistant, dimensionally stable, low thermal coefficient of expansion, decent impact strength, easily machined, scratch resistant, decently chemical resistant, must come in a 4" size rod. Of course, this exact material doesn''t appear to exist. Time for tradeoffs. I have been poking around www.mcmaster.com for some plastics ideas and specifications. Materials I have narrowed it down to include Delrin (either black or white), Oil-Filled Cast nylon, MDS Filled Cast nylon 6, and UHWM polyethelene. Some I have eliminated include Cast Nylon 6 (too much water absorption), Delrin AF (not weather resistant, becomes chalky and brittle, and costs around 300/ft), and Teflon/PTFE products (also too costly at 200''s/ft, low scratch resistances). UHWM would be perfect if it was UV stabilized, but still might be fine for the lower bushings. Coeff of friction is only .11 and price is dirt cheap at 19/ft. Has a higher thermal coeff of expansion than some others but since it probably won''t ever see temps over 100 F and we''re talking about expansions of 11x10 exp(-5) /in/in/deg F I don''t consider this a very high-weight variable. The biggest problem with this material may be the tensile strength. It is listed at 3050 - 4600 psi, and the nylons (which I believe my old bushings are made of) are generally in the 9000 - 12000 psi range, so I am not sure that UHMW will be able to hold up to the rudder loads without deforming... hence my earlier question. Oil Filled Cast nylon would also be perfect if it were more scratch resistant, which leads me to be concerned about durability. It says it is very stable dimensionally, but i''m still concerned about the water absorption properties of nylons in general. Price is ok at 67/ft. Delrin is slightly higher friction .2 - .25 and only moderately UV resistant but seems otherwise good, and I''ve heard of many people using this. MDS-filled cast nylon 6 is a better overall nylon than the oil filled, but coeff of friction is up at .22 and I''m very concerned about water absorption of this one since it is not noted as dimensionally stable and the other regular Cast nylon 6 is very water absorbing. Ok, there you have it, so if anyone has made it this far and has any recommendations or comments, please share! Thanks in advance!  

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Rudder bearing typically fail due to abrasion and not compressional loads. I wont venture a guess about what rudder load you can expect; but, do offer the following: Nylon will hydrolyse (the breakup of the long chain molecules)) in water; should NOT be used in ''wetted'' applications. Delrin is subject to "face transfer" - meaning the delrin will abrade quickly and attempt to transfer/attach to the rudder stock. UHMWPE is too soft to bear loads unless you have comparitively large bearing surface areas. PTFE or allied fluropolymers if purchased in cylinder or barstock will be prohibitively expensive. I assume that you have worn rudder shaft bearings. An adequate strength and frictional repair is possible by using your present bearings and filling the voids with carbon filled epoxy and Technora (PTFE thread) or "PTFE dental floss". Method: polish the present rudder shaft to a "mirror" polish using "Tripoli" buffing compound (available in most old-fashioned hardware stores). Coat the shaft with wax; rub on then heat lightly with a torch to apply and smooth-out a ''few mil'' thickness of wax. Wind the PTFE thread in an very open ''diamond pattern'' on the shaft but not so tight as to not deform the wax. Mix epoxy resin and fill with carbon powder to the consistency of thin mayonaise and apply to shaft/bearing surface. Assemble the bearing and mix, allow to cure. When fully cured, rotate the shaft to break the wax free. This ''fix'' is quite popular on many Pearsons that use delrin rudder shaft bearings. Do a websearch for ("Pearson + bearings + rudder") for other info. BTW - If you''re machining base polymer from scratch, your bearing clearance should be approx. 0.002-0.003" per inch of shaft diameter (less any press fit/interference fit that you use to press the bearing into the GRP to mechanically hold it in place.  

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I have one word: Acetal Its water and UV resistant. It comes in differt blends the Tucite* A (blue) being the strongest.  

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The rudimentaries of rudders.

By Steve D'Antonio , Jul 12, 2018

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Even stoutly constructed rudders are vulnerable to deterioration over time, especially when mild steel or high-carbon-stainless steel is buried in composite foil sections, which inevitably become saturated with seawater.

Like other systems and gear aboard cruising and commercial vessels, rudders have terms to identify their parts and functions. When measuring a rudder, the span and chord are the vertical height and fore-and-aft width, respectively, while the top of portion closest to the hull is referred to as the root , and the bottom is called the tip . Another term frequently used when discussing rudder design, particularly for sailing vessels, is aspect ratio —simply the square of the rudder’s span divided by the rudder’s area. As a rule of thumb, longer, narrower rudders are more efficient than short, wide rudders, and the aspect ratio describes precisely this relationship. Thus, rudders on high-performance sailing vessels are said to have a high-aspect ratio. Walking around a boatyard one day and measuring a few cruising sailboat rudders, I came up with aspect ratios of between 1.7 and 2.1, while one high-performance sailing vessel’s rudder came in at 3.5. The 20-knot semi-displacement lobster yacht’s rudder I measured yielded an even 2.0 aspect ratio, which is considered respectable for this application.

More identifiable rudder components include the stock ; web or armature ; rudderport or log ; stuffing box or compression tube ; bearing ; gudgeon ; and pintle . Not every rudder has all these components.

Rudderstocks

The rudderstock is essentially a shaft or tube that protrudes from the top and sometimes the bottom, depending upon type, of many rudder designs. Because this component provides the primary connection between the rudder’s blade (the flat section that imparts the steering force) and the vessel’s steering system, its design, construction, and material are consequential.

Most stocks are made of stainless steel, bronze, or aluminum, while some are carbon fiber, and they may be solid or hollow. Stainless steel is by far the most common, but it has a penchant for crevice corrosion when exposed to oxygen-depleted water. Insidiously, corrosion nearly always occurs in places where it cannot easily be seen—such as inside many composite (fiberglass and core material) rudder blades and beneath flax-type stuffing-box packing (the problem is exacerbated when the vessel is used infrequently).

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This all-stainless rudderstock and webbing is well crafted and ready to be covered with its composite shell.

Of the stainless steel alloys, some resist this corrosion better than others. Stainless-steel rudderstocks should be manufactured with strong, highly corrosion-resistant proprietary shafting alloys such as A22. The next best choice is 316L stainless steel, which also resists crevice corrosion well. Critically important is the L suffix, meaning “low carbon,” a requirement if it is to be welded, as nearly every rudderstock must be, to the support within composite rudders, or to all-metallic plate-steel rudders. Failure to source low-carbon stainless steel for the stock or the web leads to weld decay, sometimes referred to as carbide precipitation, where the region around the weld loses its resistance to corrosion and rusts when exposed to water.

Aluminum rudderstocks are nearly always tubular. Common on aluminum vessels to reduce the likelihood of galvanic corrosion, aluminum stocks are also relatively common on fiber reinforced plastic (FRP) vessels, particularly large ones. Rudder blades, particularly on aluminum vessels, are often fabricated from aluminum. Of the various aluminum alloys, only a few possess the necessary corrosion-resistance and strength necessary for use as rudderstocks. Of these, the 6000 series, and 6082 in particular—an alloy of aluminum, manganese, and silicon—are popular for this application.

Because aluminum, like stainless steel, suffers from corrosion, it should not be used as stock or web material in composite rudders. Referred to as poultice corrosion, it occurs when aluminum is exposed to oxygen-depleted water. Because oxygen is what allows aluminum to form its tough, corrosion-resistant oxide coating, the metal should never be allowed to remain wet and starved of air as it would be inside a composite rudder blade after water makes its way in around the stock and pintle.

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Rudderstock material can corrode in way of the oxygen-starved environment around the packing in a stuffing box.

Bronze, a once popular rudderstock material, is no longer common in today’s production vessels. Although strong and exceptionally corrosion resistant (immune to crevice corrosion), bronze is not easily welded to attach to a rudder’s internal structural webbing, and has thus been supplanted by stainless alloys. Bronze rudderstocks, particularly those that have seen many sea miles, are also known for wearing, or hourglassing, within stuffing boxes, where the flax rides against the stock. If a bronze stock rudder is chronically leaky, disassemble the stuffing box and check for excessive wear. The same is true for stainless and aluminum stocks: chronic leakage is often an indication of corrosion at the packing. Finally, because of their galvanic incompatibility, neither bronze nor copper alloys should be used aboard aluminum vessels for rudderstocks or any other rudder or stuffing box components.

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Mild-steel webbing welded to a stainless-steel rudderstock is a recipe for eventual corrosion and failure.

The webbing, or internal metallic support system, in most composite rudders must be strong enough to carry the loads of service and be made of the appropriate material. At one time, many rudders were built using stainless-steel stocks and ordinary, rust-prone mild or carbon-steel webbing. Inadvisably, some still are. The union between a stainless stock and FRP rudder blade is tenuous at best (the two materials expand and contract at different rates) and stainless steel’s slippery surface makes adhesion to the laminate resin a short-lived affair. Once water enters the gap between these two materials, it will reach the webbing and associated welds. Thus, all the materials within this structure must be as corrosion- and water-resistant as possible, and the core material must be closed-cell—often foam—and nonhygroscopic.

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This destroyed foam-core and stainless-steel rudder reveals the conventional construction of such appendages.

Additionally, where possible, the stock should consist of a single section of solid or tubular material; i.e., it should not be sleeved, reduced, or otherwise modified or welded unless done so in an exceptionally robust manner. The webbing must be welded to the stock, but the structure of the stock should not rely on a weld that would experience cyclical, torsional loading.

The webbing in the form of a plate or grid should be welded to the stock with ample horizontal gussets (small wedges welded where the stock and webbing interface), which will reinforce welds 90° to the primary web attachment.

Whether the rudder is spade (supported only at the top) or skeg hung (supported at the top and the bottom), the stock must pass through and be supported by the hull. This is usually accomplished by a component known as a rudder log, or port. In its simplest form it’s a tube or pipe through which the stock passes. Nearly all logs incorporate two other components—a bearing and a stuffing box. The bearing may be as simple as a bronze or nonmetallic bushing or tube inside of which the stock turns; or it may be as complex as a self-aligning roller-bearing carrier that absorbs rudder deflection and prevents binding.

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This rudder log is leaking, corroded, and poorly supported, with washers compressing into the backing plate and gelcoat cracking off.

The log transfers tremendous loads and must be exceptionally strong and well bonded to the hull. Fiberglass vessels should rely on a well-tabbed-in purpose-made tube (its filaments are wound and crisscrossed and thus quite strong) that is supported with a series of vertical gussets that distribute the load to the hull’s surrounding structure. On some spade rudder installations, particularly where the log is not, or could not, be long enough, an additional bearing is used at the top of the stock, above the quadrant, where it is supported by the vessel’s deck.

On metal boats the design is similar but with a metal tube welded in place, supported by substantial gussets. For vessels with skeg-hung rudders, the strength of the rudder log is still important. However, because the loads are not imparted by a cantilevered structure, logs used in these applications may be less substantially supported.

Stuffing Box

Unless the rudder log’s upper terminus is well above the waterline or on the weather deck, it is typically equipped with a stuffing box similar to those used for propeller shafts. But unlike a shaft stuffing box, the rudder’s stuffing box shouldn’t leak much, if any, seawater. Because the rudder turns slowly, friction and heat are not a problem. Packing (i.e., waxed-flax packing like that in traditional stuffing boxes) can typically be tight enough to stem all leakage, and lubricating it with heavy water-resistant grease will reduce friction and leakage.

Stuffing boxes that are above the waterline while the vessel is at rest, such as those on many sailboats, are often the most chronically leaky, because the packing tends to dry out and contract. To avoid this, liberally apply grease to the packing material itself; this requires partial disassembly of the stuffing box. Alternatively, a galvanically compatible (316 stainless or Monel for bronze stuffing boxes) grease fitting may be installed and periodically pumped with grease to keep the packing lubricated.

Rudder Bearings

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Well-engineered rudder bearings support and lubricate the rudderstock.

Rudder bearings range from the basic rudderstock turning inside a bronze log, to the sophisticated aluminum, stainless, or nonmetallic roller bearings installed in a self-aligning carrier. For most cruising vessels, the choice of bearing is not as important as knowing which type of bearing is in use and its strengths, weaknesses, and maintenance needs. The simple shaft that turns inside a bronze log is durable and reliable but more friction-prone than roller bearings. If lubrication access or a grease fitting is available, it should be pumped with grease periodically, although most rudders rely solely on seawater for lubrication, which is perfectly acceptable.

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This synthetic upper bearing worked fine in cool temperatures, but when it heated up in the sun, the material expanded and caused binding in system.

Nonmetallic sleeve and roller bearings, often made of ultra high molecular weight polyethylene (UHMWPE), require no maintenance, are extremely slippery, and will not absorb water, an essential attribute for nonmetallic bearings. Delrin and nylon, for instance, will absorb water, expand, and lead to rudder binding. On several high-performance sailing vessels, I’ve had to replace nylon or similar bearings with UHMWPE to restore the steering to its proper specification and effort level.

Propeller Removal

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Shaft removal should be possible with the rudder in place. This conventional skeg-hung rudder has a hole to facilitate shaft removal when the rudder is swung hard to port or starboard.

Whether a rudder is a spade or skeg-hung design, it’s important to determine how it will affect the removal of the propeller or the propeller shaft. Is there enough clearance between the shaft’s trailing end and the leading edge of the rudder to allow the propeller to be removed or to use a propeller removal tool? Can the shaft be slid out without removing the rudder? Some rudders are equipped with shaft-removal holes, while others are installed slightly offset from the centerline; or the rudder’s leading edge has an indentation to allow the shaft to be removed. The propeller should be removable without having to unship the rudder. The dimensional rule of thumb calls for clearance of at least the prop’s hub length between the aft end of the shaft and the leading edge of the rudder.

Rudder Stops

The rudder’s movement should be unimpeded as it swings approximately 35° in either direction, making no contact with hull or propeller. Just as important as the rudder travel is how its movement is checked. Other than for the smallest runabouts with jacketed cables, all inboard rudders should rely on hydraulic cylinders to check rudder travel (provided they are designed to do so, and most are) or be equipped with robust stops. Stops must be integral to the hull, supported by substantial tabbing or a welded and through-bolted structure for fiberglass vessels, or by welded angle and shelves for metallic hulls.

The end.

About the Author: For many years a full-service yard manager, Steve now works with boatbuilders and owners and others in the industry as Steve D’Antonio Marine Consulting. He is an ABYC-certified Master Technician, and sits on that organization’s Hull and Piping Project Technical Committee. He’s also the technical editor of Professional BoatBuilder .

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Rudder Repair

By  tom pawlak — gbi technical advisor.

A typical spade rudder for sailboats is made up of two fiberglass skins that define the shape of the rudder, a metal mandrel that is an extension of the rudder post, and foam core which bridges the space between the skins and mandrel. In order for a rudder like this to work properly, its fiberglass skins must be attached to the core and the core must be attached to the metal mandrel. Side loads on a rudder exert compression loads on the core which transfer into the mandrel. If the components become detached, the rudder can deflect excessively and eventually develop cracks in the fiberglass skins.

Causes of rudder failure

Through normal use, rudders go through a lot of stress. With every turn, the skin on each side is subject to a cycle of compression and tension. Years of sailing can accumulate a lot of these fatigue cycles. Shock loads, groundings, competitive sailing and a rudder that may have been under-engineered all contribute to rudder failure.

Additional damage, at least in northern climates, can be caused by freezing water. A slight leak at the top of a fiberglass rudder will allow moisture to enter. A drop or two of water per day adds up over time. Once inside, the water will freeze during the winter. When it freezes, it expands and can crush the foam core and, in some cases, cause the rudder to delaminate and even split apart. It may take several seasons for a problem like this to reveal itself. Our tech staff gets many calls about this kind of damage from boat owners in northern climates.

A common place to find damage is at the top of the rudder where the skin meets the rudder post. The core and fiberglass skin surrounding the post are repeatedly compressed against the post. The result can be a gap along side of the post, allowing excessive movement and permitting water to enter along the post.

Reinforcing/repairing the top of the rudder

A small gap around the rudder post or tube is not considered serious and can be sealed with a flexible sealant to keep water out. Left unsealed, the gap may allow water into the rudder, leading to extensive damage later.

As a rudder ages and additional fatigue cycles accumulate, stress cracks may develop in the fiberglass laminate around the rudder post at the top of the rudder. These cracks usually radiate from the post into the surrounding fiberglass, often beginning at the glue joint where the two fiberglass halves of the rudder meet. If the cracks are limited to this glue joint, they can be cleaned out with a broken hack saw blade or rotary grinder and glued back together with epoxy thickened with a high density filler.

If the cracks at the top of the rudder radiate into fiberglass beyond the glue joint, the cracks need to be properly repaired. This is accomplished by grinding out all of the damaged fiberglass and replacing the removed material with fiberglass cloth and WEST SYSTEM® Epoxy. At the same time, reinforce the joint between the rudder post and the fiberglass rudder top by cutting away a band of fiberglass and core around the post and filling the gap with epoxy thickened with high density filler.

  • Grind away the damaged fiberglass skin around the cracks with a rotary tool like a die grinder or Dremmel TM tool. Avoid grinding into the rudder post, this will weaken it. Cut the opening to a smooth circular or oval shape, and grind a 12:1 bevel around the edge of the fiberglass.
  • Grind back the fiberglass skin at least 1/2″ from the rudder post on all sides. Grind or cut the core around the post at a 45 degree angle back to the post.
  • Dry the area with heat lamps or heat guns if necessary. Sand the metal surfaces to be bonded with 80 grit to roughen the surface.
  • Apply a coat of unthickened epoxy to the metal, fiberglass laminate and core.
  • Fill the excavated area around the tube with epoxy thickened with 404 High-Density filler.
  • Apply layers of wet out fiberglass fabric across the repair to restore the skin. Use enough layers to equal the original skin thickness. Step the edge of each layer of fabric back to match the 12:1 bevel. Sand and fair the surface when cured. Apply several epoxy barrier coats after fairing is completed, before applying bottom paint.

It’s not a bad idea to reinforce the top of the rudder in this way as a precaution, when the rudder is out of the boat and you are making other rudder repairs.

Repairing delamination

Accumulated stresses can lead to cracks in other locations on the rudder. A common skin failure on an aging rudder occurs in the area where the metal mandrel inside the rudder ends. These stress cracks show up on the sides of the rudder about two thirds of the length down from the top. The damage may be isolated to the cracks in the fiberglass skin or problems may go deeper.

Delamination can occur anywhere in the rudder but will most likely show up in this same area where the metal mandrel inside the rudder ends. The stress cracks and delamination can go unnoticed for a season or two and the problem may not be identified until water begins weeping from the rudder after the boat is pulled from the water.

When delamination is discovered, drill a few small holes to drain any water that may have accumulated inside the void. Tap on the outside of the rudder to identify the extent of damage. Debonded areas will have a distinct dull sound compared to undamaged sections. Use a pencil or permanent marker to identify the boundaries of damage.

There are two approaches one can take to restore strength to the delaminated area. The first and easiest option is the drill and fill approach. The second option involves removing the fiberglass skin in the debonded area, repairing the core, gluing the skin back in place and structurally repairing the original cracks in the skin if any and the cuts made in the fiberglass skin to gain access to the core.

Drilling and filling

The drill and fill method is the easiest of the two repairs. It involves fewer steps but takes more time to complete the repair because of the longer time required to dry out the wet core before the repair can be attempted. The repair may not be as reliable as the second method because there is no opportunity to inspect or prepare the delaminated areas inside the rudder for optimum bonding. Even so, this method has worked well when the damage is not too extensive.

  • Drill a series of 1/8″ to 3/16″ holes on a one inch grid pattern over the debonded area. Drill deep enough to get to the center of the core. You may hit the metal mandrel.
  • Dry the core. Wet cores can take weeks or months to dry even if a multitude of holes have been drilled. Force drying with heaters or heat lamps is recommended for speeding the process. A small fan blowing over the surface will help. Locate any heat source carefully to minimize the risks of fire. I have been surprised to find how hot a surface can get after leaving a heat lamp unattended for several hours.
  • Verify that the core is dry by drilling a few more holes when you think the rudder has dried out. Squeeze the core drillings to see if they are dry.
  • Inject a slow curing epoxy such as 105 Resin and 206 Hardener or 105 Resin with 209 Extra Slow Hardener. Use syringes to force the epoxy into the delaminated areas. Lay the rudder on its side with the drilled side facing up, so gravity works in your favor.
  • Refill the holes as necessary with unthickened epoxy until the holes are filled flush with the surface. A light layer of fiberglass cloth can be applied over the area to strengthen the area if desired.

Removing the skin and repairing the core

Most repair facilities use the second option and cut off the fiberglass skin in the debonded area. They remove and repair the voided core before gluing the rudder skin back in place. This method allows the rudder to be repaired over the period of days rather than weeks. It is also a more reliable repair because you get to see what you are bonding to. Surfaces can be dried quickly and thoroughly, and damaged core can be removed and replaced with new core.

  • Cut through the fiberglass skin using the marked boundary of the delaminated area as a guide. Use a rotary tool or a circular saw with the blade set to cut just below the surface of the fiberglass.
  • Carefully pry off the fiberglass skin to expose the delaminated core. Removing the skin may be difficult if the delamination is within the core rather than between the skin and core. Hack saw blades or dry wall saws may be needed to cut the core that has delaminated from the mandrel but is still attached to the surrounding areas. Remove the skin and attached core together.
  • Remove all loose and crumbled core.
  • Dry the area with heat lamps or heat guns. Caution! Don’t let the surface get too hot.
  • Bond any intact pieces of core back in place (like a three dimensional puzzle), using thickened epoxy. Gaps of 1/4″ can be bridged using 105 Resin with 206 Hardener thickened with 407 Low-Density Filler. Wider gaps are possible if you are working in cool temperatures or if you use 209 Extra Slow Hardener. Caution! epoxy generates heat (exotherms) when it cures and may melt the foam core if too much epoxy is used at one time to fill wide gaps in the core.If the core is too broken up, replace larger voids with a foam core of similar density, glued in place with epoxy and low-density filler.
  • Prepare the bonding surfaces of the core and the inner surface of the removed skin (or the core attached to the skin). Dry fit the fiberglass skin over the repaired core. Remove any small pieces of core or epoxy that may keep the skin from fitting flush. Vacuum off any dust and loose material.\plain \par
  • Wet out the bonding surfaces of the fiberglass skin or attached core with unthickened epoxy. Apply epoxy thickened with 406 Colloidal Silica to the core with a notched trowel.
  • Press the fiberglass skin into the thickened epoxy and hold it in position (flush with the surrounding skin), with weights, duct tape or bungee cord.
  • Prepare the cuts in the fiberglass skin for repair by grinding a 12:1 bevel in both directions from the cut. An 1/8″ thick fiberglass skin will require a 1/2″ wide bevel on either side of the cut.
  • Apply several layers of fiberglass tape over the joint. Use enough layers to equal the thickness of the skin. (Several layers of 731 or 732, 9 oz. fiberglass tape equals about 1/8″
  • Prepare the surface of the cured epoxy by washing with water and an abrasive pad, and sanding thoroughly (or wet sanding). Fair the fiberglass buildup with 407 Low-Density filled epoxy. Apply three barrier coats of epoxy over faired areas, allow to cure, then wet sand, before applying bottom paint.

For general information on fiberglass boat repairs, download our  Fiberglass Boat Repair & Maintenance (free download) manual (free).

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Pacific Marine & Industrial       
Manufacturing & Distribution: Marine, Industrial & Defense
 
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Lubrication: Water

Material: Naval Brass or Non Metallic with Nitrile Rubber Lining

Placement: Forward Stern Tube, Aft Stern Tube, Strut and Rudder Shaft

Size: from 3/4 to 15 inches shaft diameter (mm sizes available)

Styles: Flanged, Non Flanged, Fully Split

Advantage: Low Cost, No Oil Dumping Hazard

Disadvantage: Costly for the Larger Shaft Diameters

   

Water lubricated cutless shaft bearings are the tried and tested standard bearing for small pleasure boats with inboard motor up to larger workboats, tugs, ferry boats and offshore supply boats with medium to larger shaft sizes.

 

These bearings are made with naval brass shell for shaft up to 15 inch diameter.  In addition to naval brass, the smaller non flanged types (up to 6 inch) come in a non metallic material for installation in aluminum boats thus avoiding dissimilar metals issues.  The smaller non flanged sizes (up to 6 inch) also come in metric sizes.

 

These bearings are made to be press fit into the housing but other installation methods can be used. 

 

The bearing interior is lined with nitrile rubber and V grooves are machined into the rubber to increase the water flow inside the bearing.

 

These bearings are for water lubricated stern tube systems that are not in danger of dumping oil into marine waterways.

 

During retrofit the costly naval brass shell can be relined with new nitrile rubber if time permits.  This option is advantageous only for bearings of larger shaft diameters.  This option is not available if the housing has been damaged or is out of round tolerance.

 

 

 

     

 

Lubrication: Grease Packed
Material: Steel, Stainless Steel, Rubber
Placement: Propeller Line Shaft
Size: 1 3/16 to 24 inch (Metric Sizes Available)
Style: Fully Split

Advantage: Long Life

Disadvantage: Higher Cost (Especially for Large Diameter Shaft)

  

Fully split roller bearings are the standard method for supporting the propeller line shaft inside the vessel for small to mid shaft diameters. 

They are installed to support longer propeller shaft between the gearbox and the stern tube. 

 

These bearings are grease packed for lubrication. 

 

Because they are fully split the bearing cartridge can be changed easily when it wears out.  Because they are roller bearings with roller balls inside the bearing cartridge they have extremely long service life. 

 

In a propeller shaft application an "Expansion" type bearing should be selected to allow for thermal expansion of the shaft and the resulting small shaft length changes with temperature. 

  

   

Lubrication: Water or Grease or Dry

Material:  Woven Fabric, Solid Lubricants, Resin

Placement: Forward Stern Tube, Aft Stern Tube, Strut and Rudder Shaft

Size: Inside and Outside Diameters As Needed

Styles: Non Flanged and / or Fully Split

Advantage: Fast Production Time, Any Size as Needed, Long Life, Dimensionally Stable in Water

Disadvantage: No Flanged Models

    

The various types of composite marine bearing have become popular with larger shaft applications.  Pacific Marine's bearing is water lubricated in marine applications but can also be grease lubricated or run dry in some non marine applications.

 

Pacific Marine's composite bearing is dimensionally stable in water and will not swell making machining easier.  

Some composite brands are not dimensionally stable.

 

The method of production, by wrapping a mandrel, means that production is fast (1 day in an emergency) and any inner or outside diameter is possible.

 

The bearings are easily machined including the addition of water lubrication grooves for water lubricated stern tube systems.

 

These bearings are popular with sport fishing boats as the composite material dampens the engine room noise entering the water.

    

  

Lubrication: Water

Material: Nitrile Rubber

Placement: Forward Stern Tube, Aft Stern Tube and Strut, Rudder Shaft

Size: from 2 1/2 to 35 1/2 Inches Shaft Diameter

Advantage: Low Replacement Cost

Disadvantage: High Initial Cost to Construct the Housing

  

Demountable stave bearings are water lubricated cutless bearings without the costly outer naval brass shell. 

 

The housing for the demountable stave is built into the vessels and is part of the vessel structure.  This makes initial cost high but replacement cost low as you are replacing the rubber bearing material only and not replacing the costly brass outer shell. 

 

This bearing system becomes more economical with larger sizes shaft diameters.

   

   

Lubrication: Oil

Material: White Metals, Cast Iron, Steel

Placement: Forward Stern Tube and Aft Stern Tube

Size: As Needed but Usually Larger Shaft Diameters

Advantage: If an Oil Lubricated Stern Tube System is Required

Disadvantage: Leaking Hydrocarbon Oil Into Seawater

  

This is a traditional bearing for larger shaft diameters when stern tube systems were oil lubricated and before composite bearings were developed.

 

With environmental policy that included large fines for dumping hydrocarbon oil into waterways, these bearings quickly became out of favor.  With the advent of environmentally friendly oils, these bearings may return to more routine use.

 

   

Lubrication: Oil with Slinger Ring and Optional Water Cooled

Material: White Metals, Cast Iron, Steel

Placement: Propeller Line Shaft Support Between the Gearbox and Stern Tube

Size: As Needed but Usually Larger Shaft Diameters

Advantage: Less Cost Compared to A Spilt Roller Bearing for Large Shaft Sizes

Disadvantage: Shorter Wear Life than a Split Roller Bearing

     

This type bearing is a common bearing type for large shaft applications due to the cost being much less than a split roller bearing of similar size.   For smaller shaft sizes this bearing is equivalent in cost to a split roller bearing.

 

This type bearing is oil lubricated with slinger ring and can also have a water cooling system to remove unwanted heat.

 

This bearing is self aligning and is designed to support long propeller shafts inside the vessel between the gearbox and stern tube. 

 

Lubrication: Water

Material: Nitrile Rubber

Placement: Rudder Shaft

Size: 1 1/2 to 9 inch shafts

Advantage: Cost Savings

Disadvantage: None

  

Nitrile rubber bushings are a rudder shaft bearing material that can withstand the high impact in rudder applications. 

 

They include water lubrication grooves inside but are otherwise shipped unmachined.   They can be machined upon request.

 

These bearings are installed with set screws and are not press fit like a cutless bearing.

   

   

Lubrication: Water

Material: Romor

Placement: Forward or Aft Stern Tube or Strut

Size: Larger Shaft for Military or Coast Guard Application

Advantage: Great Wear and Other Performance Properties, Oversized Bearings Available

Disadvantage: High Replacement Cost, Initial Cost to Construct Bearing Housing

  

Romor bearings are installed into a housing similar to demountable stave bearings described above.  Romor material has much better performance and wear properties than the nitrile bearing material of a demountable stave. 

 

Typically Romor is used in Military and Coast Guard applications and has a high cost.

 

Romor staves can be shipped oversized in thickness during retrofit to avoid replacement of the shaft liner and thus saving cost.

  

 

Brass backed staves are no longer made and this product is listed for reference only.

 

These staves were superseded by the advent of Demountable and Romor Staves described above.

    

Lignum Vitae and Other Hard Wood Bearings

  

Prior to the development of modern propeller and rudder bearing technology, hard wood bearings, often Lignum Vitae, were used extensively for ships rudder and then propeller shaft upon the advent of engines for ship propulsion.

      

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Catalina Rudder Bearing Replacement

While anchored two seasons ago, I noticed a clunk when Priorities rocked back and forth from the wakes of passing boats. The sound clearly came from the rudderpost area in the lazarette. After visually observing the rudderpost wobbling back and forth with each clunk, I figured last winter was finally time to act on a project I had been putting off for a while: replacing the top rudder bearing.

Priorities is a 1996 Catalina 400 Mark I, and like many Catalinas around her size and vintage she has rudder bearings made from a hard plastic. They are a wear item, but should last a decade or two. One symptom of excessive wear is a bunch of play in the rudder that’s noticeable when shaking the bottom of the rudder after haulout. Rudder bearing wear is a gradual process, and isn’t a crisis when first noticed. However, I can see where it might aggravate wear on steering cables and autopilot drive linkages… also items on my winter project list. It also wasn’t going to get better with time, either.

Several years ago, I hired a professional to help me replace the bottom rudder bearing. Though the job itself wasn’t that complicated, it needed to be done while the boat was out of the water and high enough above the ground to allow us to completely remove the rudder from the boat. With a rudderpost that extends 3 feet above the rudder, we needed 3 feet of clearance under the bottom of the rudder in order to remove it. I worked with the boatyard to do the project while still in the slings after haulout, but before being placed on her cradle. An alternative is to dig a hole in the ground below the rudder… but that’s not that easy in frozen Wisconsin, or for those of us that store on concrete!

I had purchased the complete set of rudder bearings from Catalina Direct when I replaced the lower bearing. It was a whopping $620! Though I initially planned on replacing the top bearing the same year I replaced the bottom, the looseness seemed much better after replacing just the bottom bearing. I put off what I saw as unnecessary work until I started hearing that clunk two seasons ago.

After haulout last winter, a quick check revealed nearly an inch of play when shaking the bottom of the rudder. The bottom bearing itself had become loose from the hull, too, which was part of the problem. It did seem, however, that most of the motion was in the top of the rudderpost, confirming my observations earlier in the season. After our steering cable failure on our trip to Pentwater that same season, a steering overhaul was big on my list of winter projects… so I replaced the top rudder bearing this same winter.

Rudder bearing with loose mounting screw

I started this project by climbing into the bottom of the lazarette and getting photos of everything. Having photos of how systems look when fully assembled helps when reassembling them later… especially if i don’t finish until spring.

Since I planned a complete steering overhaul including cable replacement, I disconnected the steering cables from the quadrant, and removed the quadrant from the rudderpost. I also removed the autopilot tiller. When I replaced the lower bearing a few years ago, I delivered the boat to the boatyard a day before haulout before disconnecting the quadrant. Some other 400 owners have used their emergency tiller for the final maneuvers to the crane… but mine didn’t fit until recently.

Diagram showing rudderpost, steering quadrant, takeup eyes, and wire rope clamps

Since I didn’t need to replace the lower bearing this time, I didn’t need to completely remove the rudder. Therefore, I did this project out of the water in the cradle, making logistics simpler.

Before any more disassembly, I compared the new top bearing with the old top bearing. The new top bearing is a self aligning bearing, involving a partial sphere sandwiched between two plastic rings. The self aligning feature allows the bearing to “wiggle” to stay aligned while not allowing lateral movement. Apparently it helps reduce friction when underway, when the rudderpost bends with stress. Unfortunately, its overall size is larger than the original on my boat.

Access panel removed, revealing the top of the rudderpost.

With some careful measurements and fussing, I figured that simply mounting the top bearing on top of the bearing box wouldn’t work due to a lack of space. Some other Catalina 400 owners, especially owners of later models, might not have this issue since I’m willing to bet each boat’s bearing box is semi custom made and has slightly different dimensions. Some boats might even use this new self aligning bearing as an OEM part.

I came up with a design that should be pretty strong: the upper bearing straddles the bottom of the bearing box, transferring any lateral loads directly into the box. The bottom flange of the bearing mounts under the box, held up by a piece of G10 fiberglass and through bolts that also hold the top flange in place. To keep the spacing right, the top flange had a ¼” piece of G10 under it as well. I used ¼” G10 under the bottom flange, but in retrospect the bottom G10 piece probably should have been ⅜” or ½” for additional stiffness.

Strong fiberglass panel holding lower section of top rudder bearing in place.

On my boat, the packing components around the rudderpost looked like they needed attention… large amounts of caulk had been put around a joint earlier in its life. Since a new packing assembly came with the bearing assembly, I decided I would replace it, too. This meant I needed to lower the rudder a foot to give me enough clearance above the rudderpost in the lazarette to swap old with new. Lowering the rudder this amount would also give me room to make minor modifications to the bearing box to accommodate my plan.

Filled with foam, I’ve heard the rudder isn’t that heavy when in water. On the hard, however, it’s pretty heavy, and felt like it weighed 100 pounds. It’s held up by one bolt above the top bearing. Since I was working alone, I built a stand of scrap 4×4 lumber to prop up the rudder a fraction of an inch and removed the top bolt.

Rudder propped up with 4x4s.

After triple checking my measurements, I lowered the rudder down about a foot. I widened the hole in the existing bearing box to allow the upper bearing’s lower flange to fit better, and drilled holes for the through bolts. I installed the lower section of the packing assembly with screws, sealing the edges with 4200. Then I loosely fit all the remaining components that would end up under the bearing box around the rudderpost: the rest of the new packing assembly, the lower flange’s G10 brace, and the lower flange of the upper bearing. Then, I raised the rudder to full height again.

Rudderpost lowered, and old top bearing removed

Getting the through bolts to line up took some work… I ended up drilling out the holes in the G10 pieces one size larger and used washers. The rudder is held up by a new stainless ring (supplied with the rudder bearings) atop the upper bearing. This ring needed to be drilled out as well to fit the new 5/16” bolt that matched the existing hole in the rudderpost.

New top rudder bearing installed.

Now that the new top bearing assembly fit correctly, I felt I could reinstall the loose bottom bearing again with adhesive. The bottom bearing is not self aligning, so I waited to glue this in place until after the top bearing was installed. Lowering the rudder one last time a few inches (or all the way out if replacing the whole thing), I removed the screws holding the bottom bearing in place, and pried the bearing out of the rudder tube with a crowbar and sharp knife.

Bottom rudder bearing shown slid down rudderpost and cleaned.

The bottom bearing is mostly held in place with 3M 5200. Some call this the “devil’s glue,” since it forms a permanent bond that’s awful to remove from most substrates. However, the bearing is plastic, and not much bonds to plastic very well. On both occasions when I’ve removed the bottom bearing it wasn’t a disaster, especially since I could use a knife to cut through the bond. To facilitate future replacement, I used 5200 only on the bottom flange, NONE on the sides that go 2 ¼” into the rudder tube.

There are screws that hold the bottom bearing in place, too. With a hull thickness of 1 to 2 inches in this area, I used 1 ¼” long screws since the bearing flange is ½” thick. When I first replaced the bottom bearing I was told these screws are mostly there to hold the bearing in place while the 5200 sets. As a result, I didn’t tighten them much. At haulout last fall I noticed they had sheared off, possibly contributing to it coming loose again. This time around, I tightened the screws more firmly.

Raising the rudder one last time while the 5200 cured to ensure it cured in alignment, I installed the retainer ring and screw at the top bearing. A few days later I wiggled the rudder back and forth to check for any binding of the bearings. Without any steering connections, the rudder moved very easily, with only a slight resistance in one direction.

New ½” flax packing was installed in the new packing assembly, and the top compression ring tightened moderately to prevent leaks. This packing is above the waterline, so the boat won’t sink at the dock if this fails, but a seal is needed in waves and maybe when motoring.

To complete the project I reinstalled the quadrant and autopilot tiller. The bearing box cover was reinstalled and resealed with silicone caulk, and the emergency tiller access port got a new O-ring purchased from McMaster-Carr .

After a season of use, including several instances of being stressed when sailing overpowered, and sailing in 6-8 foot waves, everything seems to be holding up well. Hopefully, the new bearings will last many more years. If or when they need replacement again, though, it should be easier… assuming the bearing design doesn’t change again!

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Do you spend time on the Catalina 400 Facebook page? Oh jeez, I practically live there! Sailing on hull 323, a 400 mkii and am planning a rudder bearings replacement upgrade soon/next haulout/Oct or sooner. Digging into this post as I spend time in the lazerattes and atop the aft bed with the ceiling molding pulled. If you don’t mind I’ll be sending a short video of my mid-bearing or mid-housing (remember, I’m just wrapping my head around the parts and nomenclature). More soon. Thanks. Instagram for us is beyond.the.bnb if you are curious. Cheers!

Hey Curt! Remember your MKII will likely have a significantly different steering system… probably a radial drive wheel rather than a quadrant like on my MKI. I think the bearings will work similar, though.

Great article. Any tips on how you removed the rudder bearing box cover? I removed the sealant in the gap around the cover but cannot lift or pry it out.

From what I remember, all I had to do to remove the cover was remove the sealant and unscrew the cover. There may be an extra layer of 4200 hiding deeper in the joint, so you might need a long blade or scraper to cut it.

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Discussion in ' Fiberglass and Composite Boat Building ' started by grady , Jul 23, 2015 .

grady

grady Novice

Hey folks, I have a question on steering componets and various materials to make them. I'm currently removing the upper plate rudder bushing (bearing) which sits on a rudder shelf. On my twin engine diesel powered sporty. The old cast iron 4 bolted thing seemed to work fine just a little unsitely. but it has attached its self pretty good to the stainless rudder shaft. while looking for a replacement I found a company Tidesmarine that makes a bearing out of UHMW-PE which stands for ultra-high molecular weight polyethylene. UHMW is extremely durable, abrasion resistant and does not absorb water. It’s coefficient of friction (when water-lubricated) approximates that of Teflon in these bearing products. Any truth to this statement? These things any good? anyone using these with good results? here are links of both types Old: http://www.farmbearings.com/product-p/rcj 1-3-fslash-4 timken.htm New: https://www.tidesmarine.com/tides-marine/upper-rudder-bearing-std Thanks Tony G.  
Please forgive misplacement of post, it doesn't really fit into any category. Tony G.  

gonzo

gonzo Senior Member

It is a very good material for bushings. I am not sure how it works as a ball bearing though. Seems like they would creep under constant load and deform.  

PAR

PAR Yacht Designer/Builder

UHMW and the other polyethylenes are indeed well suited bushings. I use HDPE and HMPE regularly, particularly to get their self lubricating properties. These types of plastics (and other polymers) are currently employed in most ball bearing blocks, track cars and other high load situations. Delrin, Celcon, Ramtal, Duracon are common brand names for acetal (polyoxymethylene or POM), which is the usual choice for high stiffness, low friction, resistant to deformation plastics, employed in this manner.  
Thanks guys...... good to know. Has anyone uses the bearings from Tidesmarine? any history on the company? can anyone recommend a brand. Thanks again Tony G  
Tidesmarine has been around for about 20 years and specializes in products that employ these high density plastics. I think much of their business is with the dripless shaft seals, but they have other products as well. If they weren't doing a fairly reasonable job, they'd have died a while back.  
Thanks Paul, I'll do some more research and see what I can find. Thanks Tony G.  
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29-01-2021, 17:49  
Boat: Yankee 30'
and plan to drop the and fix anything that needs attention in that department. When I bought my Yankee 30 in 1980, it was only 6 years old, but the already needed to be replaced. Which I did, built it using 316 SS stock, made a monel heel bearing insert for the bottom (mid skeg) to take up the play there, but don't remember what material or arangement was there where the rudders stock passes throught the . If I were to upgrade that bearing, would a cutless bearing make sense? The easiest for me would be to lay up (wind) some epoxy/fabric sleave and glass it in. But what material? Not of course, someting non-abrasive, low friction, long-wearing, non-swelling when perpetually wet. Any additives available for to make a good underwater bearing for a stainless shaft? (Graphite is probably out for reason of .) Or have a sleeve machined from something? Phenolic reinforced ? Only the best for my , don't want to have to go back there later.
My previous, smaller sailboat had a spiral white nylon sleeve that miraculously stayed put for years. A larger versin of the nylon bushings used for the control lever shafts on pedestals.
29-01-2021, 18:54  
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
yacht some years ago that used a cutless bearing in that application. It had shown zero wear over a number of years (now forgotten) and he was quite happy with it. Seems a practical and useful idea to me!

Getting the alignment spot on and the clearances correct are both important in reducing friction, no matter what bearing material is used... and a very low friction is a joy to steer! Many of the plastic bearing materials do slowly absorb and then swell up a bit. When enclosed in a rigid tube, the internal diameter is reduced and the shaft is seized over time. Had that on our previous and it required reaming out every few years. PITA!

Jim

PS I never dropped the rudder on my Y-30 so can't help with historical data.
29-01-2021, 20:06  
Boat: Yankee 30'
bushinng long ago glassed in at the top (through the seat), the cutless will self-align as it is being gently glassed in. Yes, my original lasted almost 40 years, almost frictionless and no play. Tiller steered, always easy on the .
29-01-2021, 20:11  
Boat: Compass 790 , 7.9 metres or 26 ft
good as it has been used as a cutlass bearing.
it as I dont know suppliers
29-01-2021, 20:49  
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
and sounds familiar.

30-01-2021, 00:01  
Boat: Jon Sayer 1-off 46 ft fract rig sloop strip plank in W Red Cedar
bushinng long ago glassed in at the top (through the seat), the cutless will self-align as it is being gently glassed in. Yes, my original lasted almost 40 years, almost frictionless and no play. Tiller steered, always easy on the .
30-01-2021, 00:58  
Boat: Island Packet 40
, durable, low friction, does not take up and swell.
30-01-2021, 04:42  
Boat: Last boat: 2008 Dix 43 CC, steel, 43 ft
good as it has been used as a cutlass bearing.
it as I dont know USA suppliers
30-01-2021, 09:35  
Boat: Cal 31 sloop
and having designed large moving structures such as gangplanks and also lots of machinery that is washed down several times a day, I learned about bearings for water . Bearings are readily available through local bearing/ industrial part supply houses generally much cheaper than a supply source. IGUS brand makes versions specially for SS shafts under water. Another generic material is PEEK which several suppliers manufacture- specifically versions for shafting. Still other brands making water bearings to look at are ORKOT, Rulon, and Kamatics. Depending on shaft size, flange requirements, design details, and availability, any of these will do a great job. Any of these should provide lower friction and last longer than than bronze. Any should last much longer and carry higher unit loads (lbs/sq. inch) than ultra high density or ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene (UHD or UHMW). And there is no to worry about.
30-01-2021, 09:39  
trough tube upper and lower.
Good luck
30-01-2021, 10:35  
Boat: CAL-2 30'
. They used Delrin for bushings.
30-01-2021, 10:49  
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Boat: Morgan Classic 33
30-01-2021, 11:51  
Boat: Yankee 30'
, as far as Oslo the first time and the second.
Raced her a lot, with good results, recently often singlehanded. Exactly, very well behaved even in wild conditions, and a witch in light air ( I use some large .)
30-01-2021, 11:54  
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
 
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How do you lube the rudder bearings?

  • Thread starter John Rushing
  • Start date Mar 10, 2015
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John Rushing

Has anyone out there figured out how to lube the rudder bearings without dropping the rudder? My quadrent and chain are not the problem. I think the bearings need a little grease. I can't seem to find an access point on the rudder post where this would be done. Anyone tackled this problem? Thanks, John  

Bill Roosa

Don't think you need to lube it. Plastic bearings, just replace after 20 years  

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Bill Roosa said: Don't think you need to lube it. Plastic bearings, just replace after 20 years Click to expand

Terry Cox

Rudder Bearings Hi John, our model is different, but Hunter likely used the same bearing material for your model. Contact Hunter Marine Customer Service for clarification. Don Martin with Hunter Marine Customer Service provided me with the following information about our 1991 P42. I've edited his response a bit for clarity: The rudder bearings are sleeves that are made from UHMW material. The sleeves do not require any lubricate. There is no adjustment on these bearings. If they develop too much side-to-side play then the bearings would need to be replaced. Anything over 1/8th inch play would be considered outside of tolerance and the bearing would need to be replaced. In another e-mail to Don I asked him whether it was a matter of dropping the rudder and popping the old bearing out or did it require special tools? He said that after the rudder is removed you should be able to remove the bearings by driving the top bearing out and from the underside of the boat you should be able to insert something like a 1 x 2 up into the rudder tube and there should be a ridge at the bottom of the top bearing, you should be able to get the 1 x 2 on this ridge and drive the bearing up. This would be reverse for the bottom bearing. Grab the bottom of the rudder and push/pull side-to-side to determine any play. I've never had the need to try this, but a marine surveyor suggested to cut a piece of teflon sheet to size that will fit around the rudder shaft at the bearing. Drop the rudder just enough to insert this teflon shim. This should reduce the play and extend the life of the bearing.  

Terry Cox said: Hi John, our model is different, but Hunter likely used the same bearing material for your model. Contact Hunter Marine Customer Service for clarification. Don Martin with Hunter Marine Customer Service provided me with the following information about our 1991 P42. I've edited his response a bit for clarity: The rudder bearings are sleeves that are made from UHMW material. The sleeves do not require any lubricate. There is no adjustment on these bearings. If they develop too much side-to-side play then the bearings would need to be replaced. Anything over 1/8th inch play would be considered outside of tolerance and the bearing would need to be replaced. In another e-mail to Don I asked him whether it was a matter of dropping the rudder and popping the old bearing out or did it require special tools? He said that after the rudder is removed you should be able to remove the bearings by driving the top bearing out and from the underside of the boat you should be able to insert something like a 1 x 2 up into the rudder tube and there should be a ridge at the bottom of the top bearing, you should be able to get the 1 x 2 on this ridge and drive the bearing up. This would be reverse for the bottom bearing. Grab the bottom of the rudder and push/pull side-to-side to determine any play. I've never had the need to try this, but a marine surveyor suggested to cut a piece of teflon sheet to size that will fit around the rudder shaft at the bearing. Drop the rudder just enough to insert this teflon shim. This should reduce the play and extend the life of the bearing. Click to expand

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John Rushing said: Thanks to everyone for the quick response. I will look into it. J Click to expand
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