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Common Issues With Tartan Yacht Sailboats

Common Issues With Tartan Yacht Sailboats | Life of Sailing

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Daniel Wade

October 4, 2022

Key Takeaways

  • Tartan Yachts have a great history with quality designs
  • Some older Tartans have issues that cannot be ignored in the deck, equipment, and galley
  • Pay attention to the condition of the hull and engine
  • A thorough inspection is needed before any purchase is made

‍ Tartan Yachts has had many designs over the years that have received positive reception. However, there are some common issues with Tartan Yachts.

Common issues with Tartan Yachts include an aluminum steel plate subject to galvanic corrosion, dark and narrow galleys, the outer layer of the hull is aged, and the cored deck. In addition, there was a serious incident years ago involving a boat that nearly sank due to a crack in the hull.

According to experienced sailors that own a Tartan sailboat, they have to be treated just like every other boat. This means doing the research before anyone decides to buy and maintain it if owning one.

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‍ Tartan Yachts Issues

There are a handful of Tartan Yacht sailboats that are perfectly fine in design. The few that commonly have issues are the Tartan 3400, Tartan 3700, and the Tartan 4100.

Surprisingly, the older model Tartan’s were not the ones that had the issues compared to the slightly newer ones. The one’s designed in the 1990’s by Tim Jackett seem to be a recurring thing.

Age and Corrosion

For some boats, 20 years is just the beginning when it comes to life expectancy. However, some Tartan models have needed a little love when sailors are considering a boat with some nautical miles on it.

When looking at a Tartan, I would check the standing rigging, mast hardware, and the chainplates. Corrosion of the electrical system is another problem that needs to be addressed if inspected.

Furthermore, some have an aluminum plate that sped along production. There will likely be a lot of aluminum on the deck in some models.

This, along with dissimilar metals, causes galvanic corrosion. When this happens, it can cause the bolts to strip and make the hull-deck joint potentially fail.

Narrow Spaces and Galleys

Some Tartan’s have an issue of storage and tight galleys. The older models seemed to not focus on the space provided below deck or other areas on the boat.

For instance, there is not enough storage for a propane locker. Some even have low companionways that make it difficult to move around. This makes living aboard full time potentially an issue, including other issues at hand.

Reports have shown that they even used inexpensive materials to craft the galleys. Not only is the space limited, but it is not the best material.

Living full time on a sailboat is arguably more popular now than ever. Some boats’ designs did not have this as a priority, so the attention was simply not there.

Worn Out Hull

Sun damage to the hull is likely to happen to any boat that is older, so this process has to be taken care of over the years. For most casual sailors, this might be overlooked.

If considering a Tartan, I would definitely check the hull for cracks and imperfections. The gel coat previously used might have issues and visible hard spots could be apparent.

A manufacturer deficiency nearly caused a Tartan 3700 to sink in late 2006. Thankfully sailors acted quickly and called for help to be safely extracted.

The overlap between both of the molding sides did not meet lamination specs. This oversight in the construction process allowed a crack to form during normal use of the boat, causing it to take on water. It is important to check any hull, regardless of age.

A lot of older Tartan models used a cored deck instead of full fiberglass. While cored decks are appealing to the eye, they potentially have issues.

If the core soaks enough water, it will delaminate the outer fiberglass layers. This causes it to lose strength and change how it responds to pressure when underway.

This will likely need a professional boat inspection to conclude whether or not it is in good condition. To a trained eye, they will be able to tell the condition.

Not as Comfortable or Convenient

During their time of being built, Tartan Yachts were the affordable version of the Nautor Swan sailboats. The demand for these boats was quite strong, with roughly 500 of the 37 models being built in 1987.

As time passed, they continued to design other models for speed and not pay attention to other areas of the boat. For example, the anchoring system is a bit of a hassle compared to other methods used on various boats.

Everyone will have their own way of making life easier on board. Tartan just happened to have some models that were not as convenient.

Not as Fast

Tartan Yachts are able to sail fast, but only when given the right conditions. Their older models are typically larger and slower than other competitors.

For those that want a Tartan for racing, they might be let down. Older Tartans are not equipped to be a racer like the newer ones are.

Tips on Buying a Tartan Yacht

When considering a Tartan Yacht for personal use, sailors have to be honest about a variety of factors. I would personally inspect the condition of the boat as well as if it fits my budget. Do not be afraid to walk away from a deal if it does not make sense.

There are plenty of boats on the market to choose from, so no impulse buys either. Furthermore, I would take it out on the water during quality wind to see how it performed.

A budget is likely the determining factor for many sailors considering a sailboat. Tartans have held their value over the years, with an average price of $50,000 for older models.

I would also factor in maintenance costs per year for the boat, as well as any potential upgrades that it needs before it is able to sail. If some are not needed right away, this could be included in the equation.

When visiting any marina or checking online, it is important to determine what a good price is for a particular brand and model. In addition, sailors also need to examine current finances to see what is affordable.

A loan for a boat will take some time to put together. Being patient with the process is great to allow anyone the chance to inspect the boat.

Current Condition

If a Tartan has recently been through a “recent refit”, it is important to know that cosmetics are not everything when it comes to performance. While a boat is appealing to the eye when it is cleaned up, this should not be the main selling point.

Instead, I would look to see if new sails have been added, new lines, updates to the electrical system, or if the cored deck has been replaced. Paint often hides corrosion or imperfections, so I would check thoroughly if it has been repainted. These will save time and money down the road.

Depending on how old the boat is, it might be time for a new engine. I would consider what is already available and rebuild if possible.

Some Tartans might need new equipment such as electric winches or replacing an old compass. It is crucial to check the condition of items like these in order to ensure proper sailing.

Larger Galley

Depending on how sailors might use a Tartan, a larger galley could be beneficial. This might mean that a larger Tartan will be in the mix versus a smaller one to acquire a larger galley.

If I were living aboard a Tartan, I would need to accommodate my living space in addition to a crew. There will need to be plenty of room for supplies and essentials for traveling. Without enough room to properly store food or eat, this will make long distances almost impossible to travel.

Every sailor will have a different preference on size. Luckily, Tartan has a few models that do not differ that much in size.

Do Not Get Stuck on Perfect

Every boat is going to have an imperfection somewhere. It is important to understand this so that any potential buyer does not avoid boats that need a little work.

The perfect sailboat does not exist because everyone has different tastes. The best thing to do is find something that works for a specific sailing goal, while also keeping in mind that it could take a little maintenance to get going.

Being afraid of continuing maintenance is a recipe for disaster. Every boat will need love and attention at some point.

Purpose of Boat

What is the main purpose for purchasing a Tartan? Some sailors might want to cruise, live on them, or use it sparingly over a weekend. While they were popular in the 90’s, they are not considered a collector’s item.

Depending on sailing goals, Tartan has plenty to offer for any of those categories. If I were to sail long term, I would look for plenty of space for storage and how it handles offshore sailing. The point is to narrow down exact goals for long term use.

How it Handles Under Power

If taking a Tartan on a test sail, I would inspect how well it responds to the wind. A good 12 to 15 knots of wind is perfect for a boat this size to get a sense of what it is capable of doing. Anything less might make the boat difficult to sail.

I would also inspect the engine and determine how old it is. Check how it works in calmer waters or around the dock. Previous owners could potentially have harmed it with a lack of preventative maintenance.

Avoid Teak Decks

Some Tartans, if they have been restored, might have teak decks. Some even have teak seats, which are another expense to repair or replace.

While these are appealing to look at, it does not affect the performance of the boat. If purchasing a used one, it could make the price more expensive. It also makes the deck quite hot in warmer climates with a lot of sun.

After roughly 15 years, these have to be replaced and can cost a pretty penny. It is best to stick with original material or consider repairing what has already been used.

Type of Naval Architect

Tartan has had a handful of boat designers over the years. When narrowing down a specific boat model in a Tartan, it is important to see who made it.

The older models that had plenty of issues were built by Tim Jackett. However, it was typically during those few years and he has since made plenty of quality builds over the years.

Issues with Keel

One of the most crucial inspections on a boat is the keel. Sailors will need to check bilge area fore and aft outside of the keel.

Mishandling by grounding, incorrect hauling, or improper storage could affect the life of the keel. In addition, the bolts and flexibility of the hull could have been harmed by previous owners.

To check if the keel and hull have issues, look for the engine to see if it is out of line or if there is a gap in between the deadwood and ballast. Some sailors have chosen to reinforce the bilge area and the spots on the hull in which poppets take the brunt of the weight in dry storage. If purchasing from a previous owner, I would ask how they stored the boat.

Where to Find Quality Tartan Yachts

Tartan Yachts was founded in 1971 by Charlie Britton, with headquarters in Painesville, Ohio. They still continue to make quality builds that anyone can put to use in their sailing goals.

For buying new or used models, sailors can search online or at their local marina that sells boats. The most common places to find Tartan sailboats are in the US, mainly in California, New York, and Florida.

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For over 50 years, Tartan Yachts have set the standard when it comes to quality craftsmanship and performance in a sailboat. The Tartan creed is to deliver a yacht to the new owners that excels in all performance expectations, spares no expense when it comes to safety, and has the luxurious accommodations that one would anticipate when buying a yacht. It was 1960 when Charlie Britton, the design firm Sparkman & Stevens, and builder Douglass and McLeod would form a partnership to build the first Tartan 27. The Tartan 27 was a departure from the old world of wooden boats and used quality crafted fiberglass hulls to set itself apart during this new age of boat building. The company quickly needed to expand as new models splashed including the 34 and BlackWatch 37 and opened a second shipyard in North Carolina.

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Quick Facts about Tartan Yachts

  • Tartan Yachts was first founded in 1971 by Charles Britton.
  • Today, Tartan Yachts is owned by MMG, a division of Seattle Yachts.
  • The factory that builds Tartan Yachts is located in Painesville, Ohio.
  • There have been more than 5,000 Tartan Yachts built and delivered.
  • The largest Tartan model built today is the 455.

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As the innovations improved in the boat building industry, so did Tartan Yachts. Tartan soon became an award-winning company, including the Cruising World Boat of the Year award for both the Tartan 31 and 372. The materials used in building a Tartan also developed over time as new higher tech composites and vacuum-bagged resin infusions became available and offered a much stronger hull with better performance. Today, Tartan Yachts are among the best built sailboats in the world.

The Tartan Yachts difference is seen in every component, each technical detail, as well as the commitment Tartan makes in their comprehensive warranty. The decks on Tartan Yachts, for example, our built with longevity in mind and are among the strongest and stiffest of any sailboat in its class. With Tartan’s resin-infusion process, every deck is a 30% resin to 70% fiberglass ratio which is much better for performance than the 70% resin found in many competitive brand boats. This provides the strong, stiff result that Tartan decks are known for. 

Tartan’s comprehensive warranty gives owners a peace of mind as it is widely known as one of the best in the industry. Our team of designers and craftsmen take pride in the materials they use and their advanced building techniques. 

These factors combine to make such a high quality product that the Tartan warranty includes 10 years of blister and hull protection as well as a 2-year material and workmanship warranty. 

The Tartan factory currently produces 3 large boat models,  the Boat of the Year Award winning new Tartan 365, the newly designed Tartan 395 and the all new Tartan 455. Contact your Seattle Yacht Sales Professional today to start your search for the perfect Tartan sailboat.

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Peter Whiting, Managing Partner, announced that Seattle Yachts International , is continuing its expansion and vertical integration with the recent acquisition of famed 60-year-old boat manufacturing operation, Tartan-Legacy.

Seattle Yachts has formed a wholly-owned subsidiary, Marine Manufacturing Group LLC (MMG) to purchase the assets of Tartan Legacy Yachts , a manufacturing operation that produces Tartan Sailing Yachts, Legacy Downeast Yachts, and AMP brand carbon fiber masts and spars.

Whiting explained that Seattle Yachts has been a dealer for both Tartan and Legacy yachts for several years and had a number of boats in the Tartan Legacy production pipeline when it became evident the Ohio-based manufacturer was experiencing financial difficulties.

“Look, it’s no secret that Tartan-Legacy had fallen onto some hard times of late and was struggling despite having a healthy order book and some nineteen boats in process on the production floor,” said Whiting.

“We could see that, with some needed recapitalization and the infusion of some heavy-duty boat building management talent, we could restore the brands to their historically strong positions in the market,” he continued “We also felt that would ultimately be to the benefit of everyone, including current and future customers, other Tartan-Legacy dealers, and, of course, ourselves, who had significant investments at stake, not to mention the 45 some people who work in the operation.”

Whiting explained further that when the urgency of the situation became clear, he retained well-known marine industry consultant and former president and CEO of Palmer Johnson Yachts, Phil Friedman, to help evaluate what might be done and, later, to consult in the acquisition.

Friedman, a long-time friend and marine business associate of Whiting’s, described the whirlwind of evaluation and due diligence activities that followed.

“To an outsider with little experience in the recreational marine industry, the speed at which this process moved might seem astounding,” Friedman said. “But in situations like this, accelerated decisions are the norm, not the exception.”

“The fact is, buying and owning a boat manufacturing operation is not for the faint of heart,” Friedman said. “Nor is it something for gentlemen hobbyists or bean-counters in pinstriped suits. It takes talent, hands-on experience in the industry, guts, and a fair measure of tolerance for risk.”

In turn, Whiting said that he was pleased to have Friedman available to help with the reorganization and relaunch of the Tartan Legacy operation because in addition to marine business management experience Friedman also has in-depth background in the construction of both sailing and luxury motor yachts 10- to 50-meter range.

Whiting also pointed out that he and Friedman are being joined on the MMG management team by long-time yacht production pro, Bill Macnab, who spent a couple of decades building boats and yachts in Asia at firms like McConaghy, Prout, Tri-Con, and Allegro — and who, before that, worked for many years at Westbay Sonship in British Columbia, Canada.

“Our main goal at Tartan-Legacy is, in the short term, to improve processes and through-put of the operation, while maintaining the high quality of construction, fit, and finish for which these brands have been known,” Macnab said.

Tim Jackett, Tartan-Legacy’s perennial in-house designer and product development manager will round out the team going forward. “Tim represents the best of what makes the Tartan and Legacy yachts what they are today,” Whiting said. “He brings to the mix a genuine wealth of historical knowledge, solid design sense, and the appetite for constant improvement and innovation.”

The Tartan-Legacy manufacturing operation is being moved to a new 52,000-square-foot facility in Painesville, Ohio, about five miles from its current location. Although only slightly larger than the current facility, the new plant is, according to Macnab, much better laid out for boat building than what Tartan-Legacy has had for the last ten or so years. And the long-term lease at the new facility assures Tartan and Legacy brands will continue to be built in the heartland of America for a long time to come.

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New Legacy Yachts at Tartan Marine Company

The first newly molded Legacy motor yachts are emerging at Tartan Marine Company. On the heels of Tartan’s recent announcement about the launch of Legacy by Tartan , production of the first boats has begun at the factory in Fairport Harbor, Ohio. The new boats all employ Tartan’s resin infusion process, including the use of synthetic structural foam cores and multi-directional e-glass reinforcements, all infused under vacuum. The resulting laminations have optimum glass to resin ratios and are tightly compacted for light weight and high strength. The process also uses the industry’s best modified epoxy vinylester resins throughout the lamination, producing hulls, decks and component parts of uncompromising strength with sensible weight savings. The company is so confident in the integrity of the products that Tartan is able to offer a hull that boasts a 15 year structural and 15 year blister warranty.

Pictured below is a Legacy 32 hull after infusion, and prior to the structural grid being set in a high strength adhesive, followed by the hull being carefully released from the hull mold. The next step is for the assembly crew to begin installation of the engine, onboard systems and interior components.

Legacy 32 after the hull has been infused

Note the trademark V sections forward and wide aft chines and centerline flats.  The V’d sections offer a great ride in tough conditions and the wide chines and centerline flats allow the hull to get on plane at low speeds.

The Mark Ellis designed Legacy 32 and Legacy 42 are the first boats being brought on line with a new Legacy 36 in the design process that will be available next summer.  Legacy is establishing a network of independent dealers with the initial dealers in New England, Mid-Atlantic, Southeastern US/Eastern Florida, Lake Erie and Southern California in place.

For additional information, please visit legacy.tartanyachts.com or call (440)392-2628.

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  1. Tartan Yachts

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  3. Tartan Marine

    Tartan Marine (also called Tartan Yachts) is an American boat builder based in Painesville, Ohio near Lake Erie.The company specializes in the design and manufacture of fiberglass sailboats.. The company was founded by Charles Britton in 1971. He started the company as a result of buying out the remains of the Douglass & McLeod after its factory was destroyed by a fire in 1971.

  4. About Tartan Yachts

    Company The Tartan Mission At Tartan Yachts, we believe in quality not compromise. That is why at our headquarters in Fairport Harbor, Ohio, we remain committed to building prestigious yachts that offer distinctive classic sailboat designs, handcrafted interiors, and unmatched performance.

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    October 4, 2022 Key Takeaways Tartan Yachts have a great history with quality designs Some older Tartans have issues that cannot be ignored in the deck, equipment, and galley Pay attention to the condition of the hull and engine A thorough inspection is needed before any purchase is made

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  9. Tartan Yachts for sale

    Tartan boats for sale on YachtWorld are offered at an assortment of prices from $7,425 on the lower-cost segment, with costs up to $635,759 for the more lavish yachts on the market today. What Tartan model is the best? Some of the most popular Tartan models presently listed include: 37, 365, 395, 455 and 30. Tartan models are available through ...

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  11. Legacy by Tartan

    Legacy by Tartan, Painesville, Ohio. 98 likes · 2 were here. Legacy by Tartan motor yachts feature timeless, elegant designs and are manufactured...

  12. Tartan Marine

    In the fall of 1960, Charlie Britton commissioned the renowned yacht design firm, Sparkman and Stephens to design the very first Tartan, the 27. The master Tartan 27 patterns and molds were produced during the fall and winter of 1960/61 and hull number one was completed and launched in the spring of 1961. Tartan Marine was Founded by Charles Britton who bought out what was left of Douglass ...

  13. Custom

    In our production line up, Tartan and Legacy yachts are very personalized to meet these individual desires, but of course this customization and personalization is bound by the constraints of existing models and deck and arrangement plans. For some, the solution may be a custom build.

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  15. Tartan Yachts Announces a New Legacy Model

    By making the best of Tartan's superior build practices alongside Legacy's proven hull design concepts, all enfolded into an elegant yacht with exceptional finishes, the Legacy 36 promises to be a leader in her class. For additional information, please visit the Legacy 36 webpage or call (440) 332-0578. Tartan Marine Company proudly ...

  16. New Tartan Yachts For Sale

    The decks on Tartan Yachts, for example, our built with longevity in mind and are among the strongest and stiffest of any sailboat in its class. With Tartan's resin-infusion process, every deck is a 30% resin to 70% fiberglass ratio which is much better for performance than the 70% resin found in many competitive brand boats. This provides ...

  17. Tartan Yachts has a New Owner

    The Tartan 395 during Boat of the Year testing on Chesapeake Bay. Jon Whittle . Peter Whiting, Managing Partner, announced that Seattle Yachts International, is continuing its expansion and vertical integration with the recent acquisition of famed 60-year-old boat manufacturing operation, Tartan-Legacy.. Seattle Yachts has formed a wholly-owned subsidiary, Marine Manufacturing Group LLC (MMG ...

  18. Through the Years

    The 2000's saw the introduction of the Fantail Daysailor, 101, 3400, 3700, 4000, 4300, 4700, and 5300, these award winning models have kept Tartan at the forefront of North American boat building. Additionally, Tartan acquired the Legacy line of power boats and in 2014 began producing this line of premium Downeast style power cruisers.

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  21. New Legacy Yachts at Tartan Marine Company

    For additional information, please visit legacy.tartanyachts.com or call (440)392-2628. The first newly molded Legacy motor yachts are emerging at Tartan Marine Company. On the heels of Tartan's recent announcement about the launch of Legacy by Tartan, production of the first boats has begun at the factory in Fairport Harbor, Ohio.

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