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Feeling 850

The feeling 850 is a 27.89ft masthead sloop designed by philippe briand and built in fiberglass by alliaura marine (kirie) between 1984 and 1988., 313 units have been built..

The Feeling 850 is a moderate weight sailboat which is a high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a racing boat. The fuel capacity is originally very small. There is a very short water supply range.

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The Feeling 850 Sailboat Specs & Key Performance Indicators

The Feeling 850 is a light-displacement cruiser-racer sailboat that was designed by Philippe Briand and built by Kirie in France. It is based on the prototype "Free Lance" , which won the Half-ton cup in 1983.

Published Specification for the Feeling 850

Underwater Profile:  Fin keel & spade rudder

Hull Material:  GRP (Fibreglass)

Length Overall:  27'11" (8.5m)

Waterline Length:  24'5" (7.5m)

Beam:  10'6" (3.2m)

Draft:  5'7" (1.7m)

Rig Type:  Masthead sloop

Displacement:  6,614lb (3,000kg)

Ballast:  2,205lb (1,000kg)

Designer:  Philippe Briand

Builder:  Kirie Association (France)

Year First Built:  1984

Year Last Built:  1988

Number Built:  313

Published Design Ratios for the Feeling 850

1. Sail Area/Displacement Ratio:  21.6

2. Ballast/Displacement Ratio:  33.3

3. Displacement/Length Ratio:  202

4. Comfort Ratio:  17.5

5. Capsize Screening Formula:   2.2

Read more about these  Key Performance Indicators...

Summary Analysis of the Design Ratios for the Feeling 850

1. A Sail Area/Displacement Ratio of 21.6 suggests that, in the right hands, the Feeling 850 will have enough performance to leave most other sailboats of similar waterline length well astern. 

2. A Ballast/Displacement Ratio of 33.3 means that a sailboat like the Feeling 850 (which doesn't have a stiffness-enhancing bulb keel), is likely to benefit from being reefed early to keep her sailing upright in a moderate breeze.

3. A Displacement/Length Ratio of 202, tells us the Feeling 850 is a moderate displacement cruiser, which means she'll carry all your cruising gear without it having a dramatic effect on her performance. Most of today's sailboats intended for offshore cruising fall into this displacement category.

4. Ted Brewer's Comfort Ratio of 17.5 suggests that the Feeling 850 will have the motion underway to that of a lightweight racing boat. Crew comfort will often be memorable for all the wrong reasons. Beating upwind in lively conditions the Feeling 850 will slam enough to shake your fillings out with a motion that most cruising sailors have no desire to get used to.

5. The Capsize Screening Formula of 2.2 tells us that a Feeling 850 would not be as good a choice of sailboat for ocean passage-making, owing to the increased risk of capsize in strong winds and heavy seas when compared to a sailboat with a CSF of less than 2.0.

Any Questions?

Is the Feeling 850 still in production and, if not, when did production end and how many of these sailboats were built?

The Feeling 850 is not in production anymore. Production ended in 1988, after 313 hulls were completed.

What is the history of the builders of the Feeling 850 and is the company still in business?

The builders of the Feeling 850 were Kirie, a French company founded in 1927 by Louis Kirie. The company started as a wooden boat builder, then switched to fiberglass in the 1960s. Kirie produced many models of sailboats under the Feeling and Elite brands, as well as some powerboats. The company went bankrupt in 2015 and was taken over by another French boat builder, Dufour.

What sail plan and rigging options are available for the Feeling 850?

The Feeling 850 has a sloop rig with a single spreader mast. At least three different rigs were available: a masthead rig with an overlapping genoa, a fractional rig with a non-overlapping jib, and a fractional rig with an overlapping genoa. The sail area is about 44 m², with a mainsail of 14.4 m² and a foresail of 18.8 m².

What keel options are available for the Feeling 850?

The Feeling 850 has two keel options - a fin keel and a centreboard:

• The fin keel version has a draft of 5'7" (1.7m) and a ballast weight of 2,205lb (1,000kg);
• The centreboard version has a draft of 2'4" (0.7m) with the board up and 5'11" (1.8m) with the board down.

What is the Feeling 850 like to sail?

The Feeling 850 is a fun and responsive sailboat that can handle various wind conditions. It has a good hull speed of 7.8 knots, and a high sail area/displacement ratio of 21.5, which indicates high performance potential. The boat is easy to maneuver with tiller steering and lines led aft to the cockpit. The boat has a comfortable motion at sea, thanks to its moderate displacement/length ratio of 202.2 and its low comfort ratio of 17.4.

What is the average cost of a secondhand Feeling 850?

The average cost of a secondhand Feeling 850 depends on the condition, equipment, and location of the boat. Based on some online listings, the price range can vary from £10,000 to £20,000 ($12,900 to $25,800).

What other sailboats have been created by the designer of the Feeling 850?

The designer of the Feeling 850 is Philippe Briand, a renowned French naval architect who has created many successful sailboats for racing and cruising. Some of his other designs include: Beneteau First series, Jeanneau Sun Odyssey series, Wauquiez Centurion series, CNB Bordeaux series, Lagoon catamarans, Oyster yachts, Perini Navi superyachts, and more.

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This light-displacement Philippe Briand design was produced in Racing, Club and Cruising versions. Launched in 1985, the Cruising model sports an airy, open-plan interior with light-coloured elm joinery. There are berths for six, a good galley and a reasonably sized chart table, but very limited stowage. A relatively large, comfortable cockpit and sugar-scoop bathing platform both enhance her appeal as a family cruiser. Her rig is much cut down from the sportier versions, but she is still a reasonable performer. A good starter boat for a family of four, she is at her best daysailing rather than offshore cruising. There is a lifting keel option, which reduces her draught to 3ft 1in (90cm).

LOA 8.5m (27ft 10in) LWL 7.5m (24ft 5in) Beam 3.2m (10ft 4in) Draught 1.7m (5ft 6in) Displacement 2,800kg (6,160lb) YM test report April 1985

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Feeling goes all the way back to 1912 when the Kirié shipyard, founded by the Kirié family, set up shop in a small garage on Rue de la Forêt in the Sables d’Olonne. The shipyard originally built small sailing boats. In the 1950s, production turned more towards speed boats. In the ‘60s, the founder’s son participated on countless occasions in the “Six heures de Paris” race – driven by his competitive streak. In the late ‘60s, the shipyard expanded and moved to the Château d’Olonne near the Sables d’Olonne. It was one of the first to work with polyester, and very early on launched speed fishing boats, the “Anges de mer”, and sailing fishing boats, the “Fifty”. In the early ‘80s, Kirié launched a range of habitable power cruise ships called “Feeling”. In 1986, the 13.5 m Feeling won the Route du Rhum in the standard boat category and the 10.9 m Feeling was voted “Boat of the year” in 1987. The Feelings were already available in lift keel or fin keel version. In 2000, Alliaura Marine took over the Kirié shipyard. As of 2010, Feeling is owned by Privilège Marine www.privilege-marine.com) and the Feeling range is composed of 7 models, from 32’ to 55’.

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• Thread starter Guest
• Start date 13 Sep 2001
• 13 Sep 2001

Thinking of buying one of these does anyone know anything about them? Cheers  

• 16 Sep 2001

Methinks the Feeling 850 was a carry tlhrough design from the Kelt 850. Like many French boats you.ll likely get sparkling performance, innovative below decks styling, but that is paid for in general by somewhat flimsy structure, questionable heavy weather performance and disappointing build quality. You takes your pick of dull U. K. designs (which tend to hold their price or push the boat out (sic) with something different. Warts and all, I like mine. Cheers, Zing.  

• 18 Sep 2001

If this is a derivative of the Kelt 850 you will not be disappointed. Check out the latest issue of Sailing Today for details of the lifting keel.  

• 26 Dec 2011

It isn't...but shares some similarities with the Kelt & the 286. The 850 was a development of a 1/2 tonne cup winning design whose name escapes me. Available as fin & lift keel........ All these boats are known for their performance & the lifting 850 & Kelt share keel design with the cast shoe on the hull. Interiors on all are similar with the Kelt less "angular"?  

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Replacing cockpit throttle on Elite 29 (aka Feeling 850)

• Thread starter Elite29Owner
• Start date Nov 28, 2022
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Elite29Owner

Greetings, Need to replace a broken throttle on a 1984 Elite 29 (aka Feeling 850). Current one is a "Marine Master." Has anyone replaced a throttle and if so, any wisdom you might be willing to share from replacing it will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.  

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Welcome to the forum. Afraid I don’t have a cookie cutter answer for you. Your choice of sailboat, a Kirie built boat in France has great sailing characteristics. Parts like a throttle assembly would have been sourced as far back as 1983. The part looks to have been sold by Marine Master, possibly vintage 1983. I could not find info on the web. This may need to be an exploratory discovery solution challenge. What is the problem you are having? Throttle issues are often linkage problems. Something has come loose or worn out. You find the issue or issues and tighten or replace the part. It may be in that box with the single screw holding the cover in place. That screw looks newer than the surrounding material which leads me to guess someone has removed the cover in the past couple of years. On mature boats it is best to provide description and data about the issue. Then we can support you with ideas that can lead to a solution.  

Consider yourself fortunate that the shifter/throttle is not in a steering pedestal!! It looks like your access will be quite good (remove the housing inside the locker). I don't think the cables are necessarily proprietary and may well be Morse anyhow. If you're certain it's a broken cable (not just a loose/parted linkage) it's likely you can buy a suitably long replacement. If the lever assembly is somehow damaged that's a completely different story....  

Thank you both for your responses. Fortunately, the mechanical linkages are working fine. The problem is with the throttle column itself. The lever that engages/disengages the clutch apparently broke off with the previous owner. You can force it with a thin blade but obviously replacing the throttle column switch would be optimal. Given the age (guessing it is OEM from 1984), I'm thinking it will be easier just to replace the entire throttle assembly.  

Elite29Owner said: ..... Given the age (guessing it is OEM from 1984), I'm thinking it will be easier just to replace the entire throttle assembly. Click to expand

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Kirie Feeling 850

The Kirie Feeling 850 sailboat is a versatile and popular vessel designed for sailing enthusiasts. With a length of 8.5 meters (28 feet), this sailboat strikes a balance between performance and comfort, making it suitable for both experienced sailors and those new to the sport. The Kirie Feeling 850 features a sleek hull design and a well-thought-out deck layout, ensuring smooth sailing and easy maneuverability.

One of the standout features of the Kirie Feeling 850 is its spacious and comfortable interior. The sailboat offers ample headroom and sleeping accommodations for up to six people, making it ideal for weekend getaways or extended cruises. The interior is thoughtfully designed with practicality in mind, featuring a well-equipped galley, a cozy saloon area, and a private head. The sailboat's large windows and hatches allow for plenty of natural light and ventilation, enhancing the overall living experience on board.

When it comes to performance, the Kirie Feeling 850 doesn't disappoint. It boasts a sturdy and responsive rigging system, allowing for easy sail handling and efficient sailing in various weather conditions. The sailboat's deep keel provides stability and enhances upwind performance, while its moderate displacement ensures a smooth and comfortable ride. Whether you're navigating coastal waters or embarking on longer journeys, the Kirie Feeling 850 offers a satisfying sailing experience combined with a comfortable and practical interior layout.

LOA: 27.89 ft LWL: 24.44 ft Beam: 10.50 ft Draft: 5.58 ft Displacement: 6614.00 lbs Ballast: 2205.00 lbs Hull type: Fin w/spade rudder Hull construction: FG Rigging type: Masthead Sloop

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Basic specs..

The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.

The boat is equipped with 5-6 berths.

Unknown keel type

The keel is made of iron. Many people prefer lead keel in favour of iron. The main argument is that lead is much heavier than iron and a lead keel can therefore be made smaller which again result in less wet surface, i.e. less drag. In fact iron is quite heavy, just 30% less heavy than lead, so the advantage of a lead keel is often overstated.

The boat can enter most marinas as the draft is just about 1.70 - 1.80 meter (5.58 - 5.88 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Feeling 850 club is 2.36, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Feeling 850 club is about 203 kg/cm, alternatively 1139 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 203 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1139 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

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SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio) Indicates how fast the boat is in light wind: - Cruising Boats have ratios 10-15 - Cruiser-Racers have ratios 16-20 - Racers have ratios above 20 - High-Performance Racers have ratios above 24 Sail-area/displacement ratio (SA/D ratio): 25.08

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• Boat REF#  ·  202256
• Length  ·  8.84m
• Year  ·  1984
• Construction  ·  GRP
• Underwater profile  ·  Lifting Keel
• Sleeping berths  ·  6
• Engine  ·  1 x diesel 13hp, Yanmar 2GM20 (1985)
• Lying  ·  North Norfolk

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Extra Details

Engine low usage and recently serviced

Aluminium spars ()

Main sail is Jeckells. The Jib was new in 2014 from Kemp, Tri Radial. There is a Spinnaker along with Roller reefing

Electrical Systems

12 volt battery, 2 batteries charged by: engine, shore power

Construction

Grp finished hull polished & Compounded. A very modern design that is a fast sailor and easily handed from the cockpit and having the benefit of a lifting keel when on a dried out mooring. Recent Toilet & Cooker

Accommodation

Aft cabin and very spacious interior. Price reflects that the headlinings could do with some attention

2 burner propane Stove

2 halyard winches 2 sheet winches 1 anchors (CQR) 10.00m of chain 20.00m of rode Recent Spray Hood & Dodgers.

Nav Equipment

Good Navigation package with someitems recently purchased

Safety Equipment

2 bilge pumps (1 manual / 1 electric)

2014 Full Survey for Insurance

Broker's Comments

Overall a very nice spacious yacht that will give many more years of enjoyable sailing. Ideal for a family of 4 in comfort and easily handled and can be trailed. Once seen you would not be disappointed but prior notice for viewing must be arranged due to remote location.

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