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I am poorly knowledgeable on all the facts surrounding the Hinkleys, but as I recall the father went out of business and the son (Hinkley Jr) bought it. He produced a line of boats with varying quality. I believe that he then went out of business and the other brother picked it ujp or something like that (where it is today). This is a really bad history, sorry, and is more hear-say than anything. I have heard that the true quality of the boats varied depending on the ownership. Some of the early 80's will also have Mercedes Diesels which had issues (parts availability not being the least of them). The reason I know some of this is I just had a talk with a friend that cruised on his Hink in the Caribbean for about 3 years and he quickly gave me some of the history... of which I have probably screwed a bunch of it up. I believe his was an early 80's model. He said it was very tender and was squirelly when running (though a beautiful boat inside). However, he seemed to feel the design of the boat was much more for coastal/day sailing than offshore cruising and he had to make many modifications to make it work, including throwing considerable weight in the bilge for stability. - CD
I believe that they were designed by Hank Hinckley Jr. and built by Ellsworth Maine . Marketed under the Brand name OCEAN CRUISING YACHTS.
An OC is not a Hinckley Hinckleys come in Pilots (35 ft), Bermuda 40, Southwest 42, a 43 with more competitve design, 49, Southwest 50-51 and 52 plus a 59, now up to 70: all in fiberglass and built with handcrafted wood interiors in ash, mahogany and cherry wood with substantial exterior teak and Hinckley designed and manufactured stainless steel rigging,etc. As a 20 year owner of a 1967 B-40 aft cabin, they are stable, solid, reliable and great to go to into any weather. A Hinckley is not a clorox bottle, but a finely made yacht, classically pleasing to the eye when maintained. The OC is not a Hinckley since it was not built by The Hinckley Company in Southwest Harbor, Maine. I believe it is correct that a member of the Hinckley family departed from the Family Business and created the OC with the benefit of clear knowledge of his Family's accomplsihments. With Picnic boats, Talarias and other power boats now an major part of The Hinckley Company line, Pilots and B-40s are no longer made. And the family company was corporately purchased maybe 10 years ago and still retains its excellent customer support to Hinckley owners with locations beyond Maine in Rhode ialnd, Annapolis, and South Florida, maybe other locations as well. I have called The Hinckley Company over the years with questions about this and that. And found friendly and professional support available to support my now 42 year old yacht. They even still have a copy of her drawings as one of 5 aft cabin yawls. So even though an OC was created by a member of the Hinckley family, in buying a Hinckley, one can get substantial knowledge and support for one of their yachts from the home office. I dare say, you may wish to check out what support OC provides. I speculate not much. Hinckleys are much more than a pretty boat, they are well found, well designed and when maintained, an incredibly safe yacht in any weather. So if you like the OC, just make sure you and your broker are not confusing an OC for a Hinckley, or you may well pay too much. And there was a 30' wooden sloop that preceded the innovation into fiberglass by The Hinckley Company prior to the mid-50's. Hope this helps
arja said: Hinckleys come in Pilots (35 ft), Bermuda 40, Southwest 42, a 43 with more competitve design, 49, Southwest 50-51 and 52 plus a 59, now up to 70: all in fiberglass and built with handcrafted wood interiors in ash, mahogany and cherry wood with substantial exterior teak and Hinckley designed and manufactured stainless steel rigging, ... ?!... etc. ... So even though an OC was created by a member of the Hinckley family, in buying a Hinckley, one can get substantial knowledge and support for one of their yachts from the home office. I dare say, you may wish to check out what support OC provides. I speculate not much. ...or too much... Hinkleys are much more than a pretty boat, they are well found, well designed and when maintained, an incredibly safe yacht in any weather. So if you like the OC, just make sure you and your broker are not confusing an OC for a Hinckley, or you may well pay too much. And there was a 30' wooden sloop that preceded the innovation into fiberglass by The Hinckley Company prior to the mid-50's. Hope this helps Click to expand...
Hank Hinckley spun off from the family to build boats of high quality at a lower price then a true Hinckley. If I recall I believe around a dozen or so boats were delivered from 39-52'. I looked at a OC40 while searching for our current boat, and while the workmanship was good, I felt the asking price at that time was too inflated. We also found the interior, like the B-40 to be too small without a quarterberth. http: Hank Hinkley Yachts
While not a true Hinckley, they are well made boats, though I never liked the pinched stern treatment of the 40'. I think Hank Hinckley designed the boat himself, where most of the other Hinckley models have impressive design pedigrees: Sparkman & Stephens (Pilot 35), Bill Tripp (B-40 & H48), Ted Hood (H43), McCurdy & Rhodes (SW-42, 43, 51, 52, 59) and Bruce King (SW-70). If the boat is well maintained and the price is good, it may be a good value, provided that is the kind of boat you're looking for. Like most old-school boats, these will have small interiors for their LOA relative to modern boats, but will sail well and have a nice motion. If you're serious, you need to look at the boat, spend a couple of hours aboard, crawl thru the unfinished spaces like cockpit lockers and check the workmanship. Sit in the cockpit and lean against the cabintop. Is it the right angle for you or the bride to read a book? T37's link has lots of good info, there was also a review of one of the OC40 in Nautical Quarterly many years ago. I know I have the article somewhere, PM me if you want it.
Thanks for all the info - so not a REAL HINCKLEY . I will bear all of the above in mind if we go and look at it. We are looking for a liveaboard cruising boat, something with a little style not a vanilla job.
The OC's While the Hank Hinckley Ocean Cruising Yachts are very fine boats, built to a much higher standard than most, they are not a "Hinckley". I spent a great deal of time at Hinckley when they were still pumping out a fair number of sailboats as a friend worked there. The robust quality of construction and level of attention to detail in a Hinckley is, in my estimation, rarely equaled anywhere on the planet, except for down the street at Morris. Morris builds a beautiful boat too and there are a few European builders doing a similar level but the OC's are just not to that level IMHO but still EXCELLENT. I've been on many Hinckley's and two OC's so I have had a chance to compare both. The SW 42 sails like a dream, though it can be a tad wet, the OC 42 while nice does not have the sailing qualities of the SW 42. If you've ever seen how Hinckley's are built, up close and personal, compared to other builders, you'd understand. Don't get me wrong the OC's are top notch just not "THE" top notch IMHO. P.S. How many builders do you know that let a master varnisher spend 320 man hours just on a master state room...?? I'll give you a hint it was not OCY..
kinda sorta but not with same logo Not a Hinckley but a very well built sailing yacht. The Hinckley company was sold to a Canadian furniture maker and the sons split off parts of the business. Bob took the insurance and brokerage and Henry the third started a competing building, service etc company called Ocean Cruising Yachts. It was up the road in Bar Harbor and employed many of Hinckley's top craftsman. That area has many boat builders and each experienced good and bad times and the work force would shuffle between each for more competitive wages. OCY built approximately: 1 37 foot power boat, cold molder for a yachtman that was head of the 12 meter Intrepid syndicate for the America's Cup 1 38 custom one off, for the owner of Alden Yachts 1 39 footer for a very experienced yachtsman whose father in law put the first aluminum mast in a large racer/cruiser sailboat and had 22 other major designs. 9 40 footers 8 42 footers 1 51 custom Bill Cook designed racer cruiser. 2 52 footers to Bill Cook designs The workers at OCY went back to Hinckleys when the company closed its doors as head of Service, head of mechanical dept, head varnisher etc at Hinckleys. A shame when you consider the quality that was produced. Comparing the fit and finish of these boats to Hinckleys are a comparable dateline they were superior. The Hinckley company is still the standard but OCY pushed that standard and made Hinckley better. I believe a few were made after the Bar Harbor plant closed in Ellsworth, Maine. A Canadian firm boat the tooling and also built some at a later date.
Woodman said: Not a Hinckley but a very well built sailing yacht. ... OCY built approximately: 1 37 foot power boat, cold molder for a yachtman that was head of the 12 meter Intrepid syndicate for the America's Cup 1 38 custom one off, for the owner of Alden Yachts 1 39 footer for a very experienced yachtsman whose father in law put the first aluminum mast in a large racer/cruiser sailboat and had 22 other major designs. 9 40 footers 8 42 footers 1 51 custom Bill Cook designed racer cruiser. 2 52 footers to Bill Cook designs The workers at OCY went back to Hinckleys when the company closed its doors as head of Service, head of mechanical dept, head varnisher etc at Hinckleys. A shame when you consider the quality that was produced. Comparing the fit and finish of these boats to Hinckleys are a comparable dateline they were superior. The Hinckley company is still the standard but OCY pushed that standard and made Hinckley better. ... Click to expand...
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The Thomas Knutson Shipyard also built some Pilot 35's for Hinckley out of wood, prior to Hinckley going to fiberglass. Knutson continued building the pilots in wood according to S&S design 539 in both sloop and yawl versions. Oh Joy is a one off Pilot 35 yawl originally built for the Great Lakes charter trade with a detachable staysail stay and bowsprit.
I knew about Hinckley quality mostly from reading about them - they are very uncommon around here. I finally saw one - a Bermuda 40 - in the flesh, but only from the dock. It was not a loaded up one - no teak decks etc. and it was a bit neglected but the quality shone through. THEN - we went sailing in the BVI and saw a number of them, all over and in flawless condition - WOW did they stand out in the charterboat filled harbours. They were like a woman in a red gown at a white wedding. You could see the quality from 100 yards. I have never seen a sailboat that deserved the term Yacht so much, not even Swans, of which I have seen & admired many. The Hinckleys were the nautical equivalent of a 60's Rolls Royce Phantom - true, old time class that simply can't be duplicated in anything contemporary no matter how much you try or spend.
Audolphins said: tillermanX2 Sounds like you got a lot of pleasure out of her and a lot of cruising. Redemption (OC 42 Hull #1) has been up and down the east coast and from Mexico to San Fransisco where she now lives. I remember talking to Hank about the 42's apparently most of the aft cockpits were center-boarder's and all the center cockpits were semi full keels. He could never figure out why . When we were at Hinckley's oxford yard one of the OC 52's was out having some work done would have loved to talk to the owners Audolphins Click to expand...
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about what Audolphins says about H-D, AMF bought them in 1969 and sold them in 81 to a group from within the company, now they are publicly traded. don't know about the rest
Umm really? Harley Davidson was purchased by AMF in 1969 and sold in 1981 NOT Hinckley. Hatteras Yachts WAS owned by AMF. Hattaras begins with "H" but is spelled differently than Hinckley.... Bain Capitol, who now owns Hinckley, is a PRIVATE equity firm NOT publicly traded.... My wife's cousin worked for Mitt then left to be Mitt's gubernatorial campaign finance director. They are still a private company..
May I ask where did you get your dates. Ann
audolphins, you can get the dates from H-D's website under company/history. or I'm sure you can just google it~~james
main sail , do you understand I was posting about H-D and nothing else? I was posting in response to another poster, only I knew the history about Harley-Davidson. On Hinckely I knew they had been bought by a private equity firm at one time, but didn't know enough of the details to comment
jameso said: main sail , do you understand I was posting about H-D and nothing else? I was posting in response to another poster, only I knew the history about Harley-Davidson. On Hinckely I knew they had been bought by a private equity firm at one time, but didn't know enough of the details to comment Click to expand...
thank you Maine Sail, but to restate and clarify, Audolphins was saying that they were informed that AMF bought H-D in '83, so I was correcting that, as Harleys I know a little about, at least compared to sailing. Hope I can pick up some great information on this site~~james
I own an OC42 and would generally agree that they are very fine boats but perhaps not QUITE a "true Hinckley," mainly in the level of finish. Solid as a rock, though. The blood-relationship is evident, though (e.g., the water and fuel tank vents are routed through two of the stanchion bases and into the stanchions themselves, which are drilled to provide the venting, a nice touch).
Although OCY is no longer in business, Hank Hinckley is still around, and maintains a website that tells something about the OCs. Here is the link: HANK HINCKLEY'S BOATS BTW & FWIW, I have owned one fo the 42s for a year now and still get a little pitterpat when I look at her. She sails very well -- not superfast but neither is she terribly slow, and rock-steady in the biggest blow I have yet to have her out in (35+ knots).
Redemption has been out in 30+ with 20+ft seas never had a minutes fear about her ability Center or aft cockpit Audolphins
If you want to know, write Hank. He's still producing boats in SW Harbor. Check out the cool 26' Daysailer.. Hank Hinckley's Brokerage Boats In talking to Hank, his passion is obvious. He is proud of his name and heritage and the work he's doing now brings all his experience and drive for excellence to bear. He isn't into it for the money, he wants to build the best boats in the world.
One quick question, I seem to recall being told at a boat show that Tillotson-Pearson actually provided the hulls, decks and liners under contract for the OC's. Does anyone know whether I am remembering this correctly? Also missing from the list of boats built at Hinckley is the wooden Hinckley 21, U.S. Navy Utility Launch 28, and Captains Gig 32, a couple or three Burgess designed post war Atlantic OD Class boats, Hinckley Alden Barnacle, and wooden S&S/Hinckley designed SW Jr. and SW Sr., wooden Malabar Jr (most were built at Graves), Shields OD class, the S&S designed Hinckley Competition 38 which had its fiberglass hull and most of their decks molded at Hughes in Canada. Jeff
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Ocean Cruising 40 is a 40 ′ 1 ″ / 12.2 m monohull sailboat designed by Henry R. Hinckley and built by Hinckley Yachts starting in 1979.
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The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
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Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
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SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
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A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
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A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
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This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
The OCEAN CRUISING 40 was available with sloop or cutter rig, aft and center cockpit. Tall rig (sloop): I: 52.7’/16.06m J: 17.0’/5.18m P: 45.7’/13.93m E: 14.0’/4.27m
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40 to 50 indicates a heavy bluewater boat; over 50 indicates an extremely heavy bluewater boat. Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam^1.33), where displacement is expressed in pounds, and length is expressed in feet. Capsize Screening Formula (CSF): Designed to determine if a boat has blue water capability.
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An OC is not a Hinckley Hinckleys come in Pilots (35 ft), Bermuda 40, Southwest 42, a 43 with more competitve design, 49, Southwest 50-51 and 52 plus a 59, now up to 70: all in fiberglass and built with handcrafted wood interiors in ash, mahogany and cherry wood with substantial exterior teak and Hinckley designed and manufactured stainless steel rigging,etc.
32.5. 30-40: moderate bluewater cruising boat. This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33) Capsize Screening. 1.8.
Despite the pandemic, SAIL Magazine made an effort to conduct and announce its annual Best Boat list for 2021. Among a sea of worthy competitors, the Oceanis 40.1 won “ Best Cruising Boat Monohull Under 50 Feet.”. SAIL Magazine described it as, “a true sailor’s boat that just happens to also have a drop-dead gorgeous interior as well.”.
With the innovative flared hull design of the Oceanis 40.1, and steps extending over a third of the bow, BENETEAU has broken new ground but made no concessions. The result is a hull that has true speed potential and is stiff under sail. Above the waterline, her deck plan and ultra-spacious interior by Nauta Design is unheard of on a boat this size.
Specifications. The Oceanis 40 is an unmistakable invitation to the pleasure of design, comfort and performance. Nauta Design has guided the Oceanis 40 towards its true character: contemporary lines where light, comfort and well-being prevail on board. Naval designer : Jean BERRET ; Olivier RACOUPEAU. Interior designer : NAUTA Design.
The Beneteau OC 40.1 sailboat has a standard 2 cabin, 1 head layout, but it can be adjusted to 4 cabins and 2 heads to offer extra space for families. The master cabin is a key feature on this sailboat — you can access the bed from both sides, which is something you don’t always get on a 40 foot sailboat. It also has two hanging lockers and ...
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