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Published on November 27th, 2013 | by Editor

Revisiting the One Ton Cup era

Published on November 27th, 2013 by Editor -->

Back in the day, when grand prix handicap racing was going bonkers, the One Ton Cup was among the holy grails in the sport. Reputations were made at the One Ton Cup.

The One Ton Cup was first created in the early 1900s for the 6 meter class, but it became an ocean racing championship in 1965 when the RORC, and then later IOR, handicap rules gained traction. A “one tonner” was a specific handicap rating number, thus providing designers the target to create the fastest boat.

And they would all gather each year to race for the Cup.

Now, with the Cup long since fought over, 2-time One Ton Cup champion Chris Bouzaid (1969 and 1972) and the Royal New Zealand Yacht Squadron are seeking an indication of potential interest in a proposed “One Ton Cup Revisited” regatta, in Auckland, New Zealand, in February/March 2015.

The regatta would celebrate the (near) 50 th anniversary of the One Ton Cup switching from metre class yachts to offshore racers, using an international rule (RORC) to measure and rate contestants. This was when interest in the Cup went global and led to One Tonners being regarded as the Formula One class of ocean racing.

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The current thinking is to cater for RORC and IOR One Tonners that were eligible for Cup competition between (and including) the years 1965 to 1983. The Cup increased the boat size in 1984.

The IRC Rating Rule would be used to equitably handicap the fleet which would be raced in two classes – RORC and IOR yachts 1965 to 1971 (inclusive), and IOR yachts 1971 to 1983 (inclusive).

The RNZYS has had a long involvement in the modern era of the event, competing for the Cup no less than 12 times, in seven different countries. In the process, it has won the Cup on five occasions and hosted the event twice.  

The current proposal for the “Revisited” regatta would be to mirror the One Ton Cup of old – such that there would be three inshore races, a short ocean race and a proper ocean race. In deference to contestants and boats, however, the inshore races would be of approximately 20 miles length, while the short ocean race would be a 40-miler (approx) and the ocean race a 100-miler (approx).

There would be a Prix d’ Elegance and other innovative awards, with an opening ceremony and  prizegiving that would do full justice to New Zealand’s legendary record for celebrating major sailing occasions.

There would also be a New Zealand Millennium Cup super yacht and One Ton Cup Revisited weekend at the beautiful Hauraki Gulf island of Kawau, with its famous Mansion House which, in the mid-to-late 1800s, was the residence of the then Governor of New Zealand, Sir George Grey.

This will be a high-profile sailing period in Auckland.

The Finn Gold Cup will be raced off Takapuna Beach in February 2015, while the Volvo Ocean Race fleet is scheduled to arrive in Auckland (from China) on or about around 26 February 2015, and leave for Itajai, in Brazil, on 15 March 2015.

The proposed “One Ton Cup Revisited” would be an important and integral part of this major celebration of sail.

Those interested should communicate, by email that interest, with brief detail of the One Tonner that might/would be involved: Alan Sefton, [email protected]

Below is an example of boats that were eligible One Tonners up to and including 1983 (updated Dec 4, 2013 but by no means definitive). Please email the Scuttlebutt editor with any corrections and/or additions:

Boat list as of December 4, 2013 Boat list as of November 27, 2013

Tags: handicapping , IOR , One Ton Cup , RORC

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 This design was in response to a late program starting in January by Irvine Laidlaw of Singapore to build a new design 1 tonner for the 1985 Singapore Admiral's Cup team and later for competition in the Southern Cross Cup in Australia. This is the first IOR design we have done since the actual 1985 rule changes were announced in November, thus it reflects our interpretations of this year's rule, and is a development of the design theme for our two very successful 43 footers "SNAKE OIL" (Class C winner SORC) and "DRAKE'S PRAYER" (top boat Australian Admiral's Cup trials).

In general terms the approach was to develop a design that would have good all round performance with more emphasis on light airs performance than our previous designs. Our goal was to equal or better the speed of all our previous 1 ton designs in all conditions, that is to equal the extreme performance of our Southern Hemisphere 40's such as  "EXADOR", "PACIFIC SUNDANCE" in moderate fresh conditions and at the same time better the performance of our smaller designs eg. "SIRIUS" (third in 1984 1 Ton Worlds), "EPIC LASS" (New Zealand Admiral's Cup team), "CARRO CHEFE" and "SAGA" (Brazilian Admiral's Cup team) in lighter conditions.

To achieve this goal the boat has a little more sail area and displacement than any of these existing designs, is almost as long as the lengthy Southern Hemisphere boats, but significantly narrower at beam waterline.

The narrower beam waterline is in response to the changed CGF formula which allows an increase in stability over last year's designs whilst at the same time obtaining a substantial decrease in wetted surface area.

Stern sections are modeled very much on those developed for "SNAKE OIL" and "DRAKE'S PRAYER" being of only moderate beam but very fair through the aft measurement stations allowing higher top speeds to be reached.

With an SHR of 15.8 some may not consider this to be a fast light weather boat. However, due to the very narrow beam waterline and the deep but small area keel and low wetted surface area hull form, the boat will be fast in light weather. Performance prediction work indicates that this design will be significantly faster in all conditions than all of our previous boats with the exception of hard reaching in heavy airs when our Southern Hemisphere 40's can just match this boat, conditions when these boats are presently considered invincible.

The rig is very much our usual fractional although the fore triangle is a little taller at the expense of some mainsail area to trade off some of this style of boat's fantastic upwind performance to boost running and broad reaching speed in light airs, the only conditions when our earlier designs appear to be a little fragile.

Construction is our normal highly developed Kevlar sandwich utilizing a PVC vacuum bagged core. This type of construction provides for a very stiff boat and clean roomy interior.

The weight is equivalent or better than using carbon fibre, the cost significantly less and structural behaviors in an overload situation is far more acceptable.

This design, like our 43 footers, should show all round capabilities with no weak areas in any conditions or directions.

12.19 m/40.0 ft

9.72 m/31.89 ft

3.99 m/13.09 ft

2.21 m/7.25 ft

6,270 Kg/13,794 Lbs

14.39 m/47.21 ft

4.21 m/13.81 ft

15.49 m/50.82 ft

5.60 m/18.37 ft

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Doug Peterson

Douglas Blair Peterson (July 25, 1945 – June 26, 2017) was an American yacht designer. Beginning with the One Tonner Ganbare in 1973, Peterson’s designs have pioneered many innovations in racing and cruising yachts After nearly winning the 1973 International One Ton Cup, Doug Peterson stated in an interview: “I started putting boats down on paper when I was 10, and have never wanted to do anything else.” This was GANBARE, clearly the fastest boat in the series (though, due to some tactical errors, she didn’t actually win). Built on a shoe string budget, and a huge gamble financially for him personally, GANBARE was the boat that clearly established his reputation. Another Peterson design, ‘Gumboots’, easily won the following year, proving that no other designer had ‘caught up’. Almost immediately, Doug Peterson became the designer in demand for IOR racing sailboats, around the world, for more than a decade. His firm employed many who went on to establish their own reputations as designers of racing sailboats. Later he became involved in several Americas Cup campaigns. A tribute page to this legendary designer has been set up on Facebook. Please click on the link above to contribute content.

66 Sailboats designed by Doug Peterson

Jeanneau Sun Legende 41

Peterson 44 Cutter

Kelly-Peterson 44

Peterson 34

Ood 34 (Contessa)

Contessa 35

Baltic 38 DP

Baltic 42 DP

Contention 30 (Peterson)

Kelly-Peterson 46

Grand soleil 50 (1992).

Serendipity 43

New York 40 (Peterson)

Ny 40 (peterson), peterson 36.

Baltic 48 DP

Cavalier 36

Passport 45 (Hoyt)

Contessa 39

Contessa 25 (peterson).

Baltic 55 DP

Peterson 38

Pinnacle 29.

Peterson 25 1/4 Ton

Bavaria Match 42

MG 26 (Peterson)

Jeanneau legende 1 ton.

Jeanneau Sun Fast 41

Bavaria Match 38

Peterson 30 1/2 ton.

Bavaria Match 35

Peterson 33 Chita

Hans christian christina 48.

Hans Christian Christina 52

Islander 40

Jongert 21s, cavalier 26.

Contention 33 (Peterson)

Impala 36 (Peterson)

Olympic sea 42.

Serendipity 43 R/C

Blazer 23 (Peterson)

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Wiggers 37 (peterson).

Peterson 37

Contessa 43

Contessa 28

Pinnacle 30

Chita peterson 30.

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Discussion in ' Sailboats ' started by steveo-nz , Oct 5, 2008 .

dus25 New Member

additions/// Races in Russia in QT class only for IOR < 5,65m Typical IOR certificate is in attachment  

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booster Senior Member

Hi! I know about the Q-ton activity in Poland, but this activity in Russia was new to me. Interesting to see that you still use the IOR-rule. You have several good sailors, that duel in the Kingston Olympic games between Mankin and Albrechtson in Tempest! Perhaps Dennis Conner was 3:rd? Those America's Cup boats of your's in San Diego, that lacked funds... The Swedes in the Norlin-Södergren design "Tre Kronor" had a little more sponsoring, but not much. In fact "Tre Kronor" means three SEK (but it is also ironically the name of the Royal Castle in Stockholm). Regards, Booster  

QT is one of the most popular classes in Russia We have about 35 Q-ton boats at Moscow Championship and about 30 Q-ton boats at Championship of Russia in 2009. The race calendar for Q-ton consist about 10-12 regattas every year (in Moscow) Another one active fleet is in Vladivostok and it consist of about 25 Konrad 25 (Peterson 25)/ In Vladivostok the races for Konrad 25 aren’t use IOR-rules. The Konrad 25 in Vladivostok is the monotype boat. Now in Vladivostok also use Platu-25 (about 10 boats)  

dus25! What is the background of your Q-ton sailors? Any of the old Soling-sailors present? Any Finn-sailors? At some time your Soling sailors were very good, perhaps before the match-racing part was introduced at the Olympics? Those Soling sailors of yours bought second-hand stuff from other countries. Still they were among the fastest at the Soling World's. Impressive. What is the reason that the Q-ton is so popular in your coundtry. Can we learn something? Regards, Booster  

CRM Boat Builder

dus25! Why NOT ! Welcome aboard ! For the people that build the ,Sukhoj - Su.26 or the Yak 54 sport planes, to not have excellent contemporary sport boats is just not googling what is happening in Russia. A fellow flies into Port Townsend with a Su26 sport plane and I've spent much time examining the plane and having worked for Boeing as a tooling engineer on the 767 start up after my Bayliner years; I can rate it with a Beech craft/Bonanza for an elegant high order build minus a leatherette appointed cabin. The www.vprincipe.ru web sit covers much of the river racing Scene in the big "M". I was google mapping a river on the East coast of the White Sea, were I clicked on a picture near a logging town's dock, and was surprised to see a 1980 Bayliner 2550 / Saratoga sedan cruiser !!!!!!! I would say of any place where the IOR could continue to influence boat design out side the pressure of the "one design think" would be a place like Russia. The US is a slave to marketing pressure to join the big white one design fleet. The thrust or focus towards the youth, sport boat design type to the exclusion of alternative designs personaly bugs me. These rich boat manufactures vacuum up " all "wanting to get into boats like the Quarter ton type boat. Often a J-24 can speed past my Peterson 25 in meny conditions but light air, yet I much prefer the P-25, to a j-24 hands down. Like meny monitoring this topic like these boats for one reason are an other. I enjoy seeing the snaps of the Quarter Ton boats and the racing in the Moscow waters.  

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Mystery Boat !!!!! Can any one peg this boat? It has been mentioned here. crm. P.S. please take note of the high gain back stay leavers!!  

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Gary Baigent Senior Member

Scandinavian - Evind Still?  

difficult Mystery boat again!!! Gary B says Scandinavian, Eivind Still? Well, the stern looks like a little Doug Peterson, and Trägårdh (Sweden) did some sterns like that. Södergren usually didn't have that flat part under the transom. Norlin designed a quarter-tonner "Creme Fraiche" about 78-79 that was a little Manznita inspired. The backstay-arrangement is unusual in Sweden (under the relevant period). On old boats, say -50 you can find it. The compasses recessed in the deck is unusual in Sweden as well (under that period). Some german boats had that compass arrangement. On the other hand Judel&Vrolic was later. Perhaps Elvström&Kjearulf? This is a difficult one. Regards, Booster  

Paul B Previous Member

CRM said: ↑ Can any one peg this boat? It has been mentioned here. crm. P.S. please take note of the high gain back stay leavers!! Click to expand...

If it is a true Davidson design it most likely would have an open transom. And he wouldn't have had those hi field levers on the backstay runners. Also the midships beam looks too wide for a Davidson, too much a fatty. The transom also looks very similar to a Berret's Oesophage Boogie 3/4 tonner - although this is a smaller boat.  

Mystery quarter tonner. This is are " was " an interesting 1979 North Americans winner. The boat always reminded me of "Mr. Bill's Dog" 1/2 ton winner out of Oklahoma! Do not remember when Mr. Bill won the worlds 1980's? Any way, I well post a bow on snap of this 1/4 ton boat that Paul B well pick up on. I liked the way it's bow pulpit was laid out and duplicated it for my Peterson 25. Never regretted that. I didn't think fellows out side the US would recognize the design. Gary B was right on about the tacking runner levers. 1928-30 technology out of Scandinavia to help underway tuning for IOD - Dragons. When this 1/4 ton boat had success in the N.A. Latitude 38 talked it up about how slick the levers worked. I can attest to that fact. Most of the races were held on the Berkeley triangle, However one race "the first or last" can't recall ??? was started wright off the beach at the St.Frances Yacht club. The two boats that were hot on its heels looked like a Farr 727 and a Thunder bird ? Wasn't up close and personal with this race, Unfortunately. Yet with my field glasses I could see the boats jockeyed for position at the start and saw the levers let off, then bang they came on. very smooth. The Boat was Carl Schumacher's "Summertime Dream." crm  

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CRM said: ↑ The boat always reminded me of "Mr. Bill's Dog" 1/2 ton winner out of Oklahoma! Do not remember when Mr. Bill won the worlds 1980's? Click to expand...

Paul B It was only a mini Toner????? Man my memory is shot. I will upload the Summertime file now, again I had resolution set to high. Also a shot at the start of a race at these N.A.'s I think it is of this Suzi you have mentioned, as it has a cabin port lite, however the Farr 727 did to. Sailing Anarchy had a very nice write up about the Kelly designed mini Mr. bill's"big" dog. I Do remember the Oklahoma connection, which cough my eye. Let's take a look. crm  

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San Fran 1/4 Ton races. Suzi? dipping back for the start. Then head to head with summertime. If I just had a better lens for my camera.  

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CRM said: ↑ It was only a mini Toner????? Man my memory is shot. Click to expand...

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